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tilinmyowngrave
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PhilGood said:
But wait, isnt your comment about the White Stripes sucking ass also an opinion? Either way, I agree.
But wait, isnt your comment about the White Stripes sucking ass also an opinion? Either way, I agree.
PhilGood
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Of course it's an opinion. I'm trying to illustrate a point.
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ermghoti
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the inhabitant said:
Have you ever met anyone but the voices in your head? I have yet to encounter anyone who has even attempted to defend MW's "drumming." The only reason that pair of funbags is behind a kit is because the White Stripes are a gimmick act. The studio release blows, and everything I've seen live is even worse, that applies to both Stripes.
the inhabitant said:
That doesn't narrow it down much. YJM has some pretty spiffy instrumentals, Little Savage is particularly catchy. If you don't like the meedlymeedlymeedly, then fine. I won't excuse the songs with vocals. Frankly, I don't see a need to have more than one YJM release, he doesn't vary much.
the inhabitant said:
Yankee Rose is better than any Van Hagar, a solid cawk rawk performance by all involved. There is a lot worse out there than The Audience is Listening, Tender Surrender, Call it Sleep, For the Love of God, Firewall, etc. etc.
Anything by The White Stripes, for example.
the inhabitant said:I would hate to see your record collection.
Probably. It would rock you into a coma from which you would never recover. It might even turn you straight.
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the inhabitant
WTF is going on here?
Religion, politics and taste in music...
Man, you guys are too easy to get all riled up. Even when I admit I'm just trying to get people all riled up, they still get all riled up.
"worst thing in the history of the world."
Come on, that's an obvious exaggeration and a reliculous thing to say. How the hell should I know what the worst thing in the world is? I was just trying to get someone razzed and make fun of Malmsteen for being so egotistical (and cheesy) that he would put a illustration of himself slaying a dragon with a guitar on the cover of his record.
Do I hate Roth? No. Van Halen blows Van Haggar out of the friggin water; everybody knows that (oops, another assumptoin about other peoples taste).
So why did I chose the Stripes as my good-even-though-simple example. Well yeah, I admit I thought since they've been the world's most popular band for the past few years, they would make a good example of kids with only so much technical ability that still rock (the Stooges would be another example IMO). I truly haven't met anyone besides this jealous drummer I know, that doesn't like them. I live in a record-store-snob type of society, reminiscant of that movie "High Fidelity" that consists of young people that hang out at rock clubs, for whom it goes without saying that the Stripes rock. Not because it's hip to think that but because the music sounds damn good to us. Period. Many major music magazines, including Rolling Stone, hail the Stripes as the best current band in the world right now. I assumed there was somewhat of a loose consensus on that. Please forgive me.
And ermghoti: your collection WOULD NOT "put me into a coma". I'd be willing to bet that if we were both underground DJ's on the AM radio, my show would quickly garner many times the amount of listeners of your show. And I know that given the chance you would take on that bet because your probably confident your show would blow mine out of the water. So why is that? Because everybody thinks they have better taste than everybody else. It's a way of life. So thank you all for the entertainment, folks; it was a pleasure dealing with you.
Now everybody just calm down.
Man, you guys are too easy to get all riled up. Even when I admit I'm just trying to get people all riled up, they still get all riled up.
"worst thing in the history of the world."
Come on, that's an obvious exaggeration and a reliculous thing to say. How the hell should I know what the worst thing in the world is? I was just trying to get someone razzed and make fun of Malmsteen for being so egotistical (and cheesy) that he would put a illustration of himself slaying a dragon with a guitar on the cover of his record.
Do I hate Roth? No. Van Halen blows Van Haggar out of the friggin water; everybody knows that (oops, another assumptoin about other peoples taste).
So why did I chose the Stripes as my good-even-though-simple example. Well yeah, I admit I thought since they've been the world's most popular band for the past few years, they would make a good example of kids with only so much technical ability that still rock (the Stooges would be another example IMO). I truly haven't met anyone besides this jealous drummer I know, that doesn't like them. I live in a record-store-snob type of society, reminiscant of that movie "High Fidelity" that consists of young people that hang out at rock clubs, for whom it goes without saying that the Stripes rock. Not because it's hip to think that but because the music sounds damn good to us. Period. Many major music magazines, including Rolling Stone, hail the Stripes as the best current band in the world right now. I assumed there was somewhat of a loose consensus on that. Please forgive me.
And ermghoti: your collection WOULD NOT "put me into a coma". I'd be willing to bet that if we were both underground DJ's on the AM radio, my show would quickly garner many times the amount of listeners of your show. And I know that given the chance you would take on that bet because your probably confident your show would blow mine out of the water. So why is that? Because everybody thinks they have better taste than everybody else. It's a way of life. So thank you all for the entertainment, folks; it was a pleasure dealing with you.
Now everybody just calm down.
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the inhabitant
WTF is going on here?
I have to admit that I was an asshole with that comment about your record collection. HR is so huge that feels like I can just say whatever the hell I want with complete anonymity like putting an in-your-face political bumper sticker on your car just to razz membors of "the other party" who get stuck behind you in traffic. I would never consider being so brazen on a smaller board because it feels more intimate and I wouldn't want to make any enemies that I'm going to have to "chat" with in the future. But this board should be treated no differently. I crossed a line (at least in my book) and I apologize.
You all now know about my "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" philosophy at this point which was the only point I was trying to make in the first place. So now that I'm done making that point, let's move on and have more discussion about drummers.
You all now know about my "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" philosophy at this point which was the only point I was trying to make in the first place. So now that I'm done making that point, let's move on and have more discussion about drummers.
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ermghoti
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the inhabitant said:
Sphincter to your heart's delight. You were obviously looking for an argument, and I had a slow day at work. I could not care less about somebody else's poor taste in music. I have to go work on my anti-dragon guitar fu.
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the inhabitant
WTF is going on here?
I think it's obvious looking back over the posts, that I was the one having fun while you were the one getting all freaked out and and crying tears over this whole thing. So I thought I must have crossed a line...
Now fuck off.
Now fuck off.
myhatbroke
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the drummer for rush is really good next to that id say lars and after that the drummer for dream theatre
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ermghoti
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the inhabitant said:
Lafforama.
PhilGood
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the inhabitant said:
I didn't see anyone getting freaked out and crying tears. I didn't even see anyone getting all that upset! All I have seen so far is you stating something, getting an opposing view point, and then watching your feet slip as you tried to backpedal several times.
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tilinmyowngrave
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myhatbroke said:
...You compare Mike Portnoy (dream theater drummer) to Lars Ulrich... is that a joke?
drossfile
nope
in no particular order:
danny carey (tool)
tomas hakke (meshuggah)
neil peart (rush)
bill bruford (yes, king crimson, gordian knot, etc)
billy cobham (mahavishnu orchestra--sure it's fusion, but rocks enough to be rock)
carter beauford (dmb--sure it's pansy rock, but carter rocks)
charlie benante (anthrax)
morgan agren (frank zappa, fredrik thordendal's special defects, mats/morgan--this friggin guy is probably #1, and if you don't believe me, check out his vid with thordendal on youtube.com)
chris pennie (dillinger escape plan)
tim alexander (older primus)
i should list phil collins for his work in peter gabriel-era genesis, but i won't because of his "work" on everything that came after.
danny carey (tool)
tomas hakke (meshuggah)
neil peart (rush)
bill bruford (yes, king crimson, gordian knot, etc)
billy cobham (mahavishnu orchestra--sure it's fusion, but rocks enough to be rock)
carter beauford (dmb--sure it's pansy rock, but carter rocks)
charlie benante (anthrax)
morgan agren (frank zappa, fredrik thordendal's special defects, mats/morgan--this friggin guy is probably #1, and if you don't believe me, check out his vid with thordendal on youtube.com)
chris pennie (dillinger escape plan)
tim alexander (older primus)
i should list phil collins for his work in peter gabriel-era genesis, but i won't because of his "work" on everything that came after.
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davedrave
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Mullen?
Never thought id hear larry mullen in a list of best drummers.
DimChandeliers said:
Never thought id hear larry mullen in a list of best drummers.
digmudvayne4lif
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Matt McDonough(MuDvAyNe) and Joey Jordison(slipknot) are hands down two of the best drummers out there. CHeck out their stuff. Best Ive heard so far in my life. The drumer from rush is also pretty kick ass
jmxdrummer
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Dave Lompardo (slayer) And Raymond Herrera (fear Factory)
PhilGood
Juice box hero
DimChandeliers said:
Wow! I realize this is reaching back to 2003 for this post ('cause one of the last posts brought it back up) but I've never even heard of Joy Division.
And how influential can the drummer be if all you can call him is "the guy from Joy Division"?
Sounds really influential if you can't even remember his name.
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Greg_L
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lol. dont worry about it. joy division is crap.PhilGood said:Wow! I realize this is reaching back to 2003 for this post ('cause one of the last posts brought it back up) but I've never even heard of Joy Division.
And how influential can the drummer be if all you can call him is "the guy from Joy Division"?
Sounds really influential if you can't even remember his name.
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tilinmyowngrave
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digmudvayne4lif said:
Then you need to listen to more stuff... seriously, Joey and Matt are more about speed than taste, and there are far faster drummers out there (Tim Waterson). Listen to Mike Portnoy, Danny Carey, Neil Peart, Billy Cobham, Jimmy Chamberlain (or however u spell his name), and Terry Bozzio.
bubbagump
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davedrave said:
Ya know, he does have a certain Ringo quality about him. Nothing flashy, but always appropriate. I mean, who can't identify New Year's Day from the first 2 seconds of the tune?
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firby
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Stuart Copeland. If you listen he has alot more than just the four on the floor and great hihat technique. He has clean punk sound and the reggae stuff as well. A great rock drummer.