Wall of sound or torpedo users

[FrankD77]

Ive been using the Captor X for a few years and absolutely love it.
I have a selection of tube amps and pre-amps I run through it and in combination with the right IR (I'm using the BHG Vai pack which I highly recommend) it sounds great.
The thing I did not like that much is that you have to commit to the sound, unless you send out a RAW track and use wall of sound inside the DAW.

I got some great sounding presets, but all presets took me a few hours to fine tune and needed some EQ and exciter to get the edge I like.

A while ago they released Genome and maybe you thought the same thing as I did.
Awesome modeler with great effects, and use it for example with a DI track to fatten up a recording But not really my thing, love tube amps

I'm using a selection of outboard gear and although it all sounds great often when I'm done with recording, it's a bit too much, little too little etc.
So I've started using the IO plugin to record my FX separate to create a wet dry in the DAW.

That's when I started looking at Genome differently and highly recommend checking it out.
I selected RAW out on the Capture X, and on the track it comes in I'm running Genome but only with a cab sim.
You can even split the signal and use 2 cabs and 4 mics.

The nice thing about this setup is that you can change almost everything after the fact including mic placements and cabs.
But most of all, and actually why I post this. the sound quality of Genome with just the IR's seems to be miles ahead of wall of sound.
I did not need any eq or exciter just the cabs and the mics and after 5 minutes I got a better sound than all the years with wall of sound.

I'm using my vintage outboard gear, but even in Genome they have some great effects.

 

[DM60]

Is this an amp simulator or is there more to it?

 

[FrankD77]

I use it 3 ways.
As a complete rig with the DI track

I run the capture x with the RAW output to genome and use cab IRs

And I still have to test to go from the pre amp right into genome and use the power amp simulation.

It's very flexible and fun

 

[Papanate]

Ive been using the Captor X for a few years and absolutely love it.
I have a selection of tube amps and pre-amps I run through it and in combination with the right IR (I'm using the BHG Vai pack which I highly recommend) it sounds great.
The thing I did not like that much is that you have to commit to the sound, unless you send out a RAW track and use wall of sound inside the DAW.

I got some great sounding presets, but all presets took me a few hours to fine tune and needed some EQ and exciter to get the edge I like.

A while ago they released Genome and maybe you thought the same thing as I did.
Awesome modeler with great effects, and use it for example with a DI track to fatten up a recording But not really my thing, love tube amps

I'm using a selection of outboard gear and although it all sounds great often when I'm done with recording, it's a bit too much, little too little etc.
So I've started using the IO plugin to record my FX separate to create a wet dry in the DAW.

That's when I started looking at Genome differently and highly recommend checking it out.
I selected RAW out on the Capture X, and on the track it comes in I'm running Genome but only with a cab sim.
You can even split the signal and use 2 cabs and 4 mics.

The nice thing about this setup is that you can change almost everything after the fact including mic placements and cabs.
But most of all, and actually why I post this. the sound quality of Genome with just the IR's seems to be miles ahead of wall of sound.
I did not need any eq or exciter just the cabs and the mics and after 5 minutes I got a better sound than all the years with wall of sound.

I'm using my vintage outboard gear, but even in Genome they have some great effects.

You must be getting what you want - but the setup sounds quite convoluted.

 

[FrankD77]

How do you mean ?
It's in essence a simple wet dry recording.

Genome just makes it possible to chose to where you want the chain to be original. If you have a complete tube amp only use cab sim

If you only have a pre amp pedal use cab sim and Poweramp.

It super easy to setup via a patch panel.
But i agree it only makes sense when recording

 

[Papanate]

How do you mean ?
It's in essence a simple wet dry recording.

Genome just makes it possible to chose to where you want the chain to be original. If you have a complete tube amp only use cab sim

If you only have a pre amp pedal use cab sim and Poweramp.

It super easy to setup via a patch panel.
But i agree it only makes sense when recording

Genome is an Amp PROFILER - so you are using Genome just for a Cab Sims? Why not use Captor X?

 

[FrankD77]

Genome was designed as a replacement

Also with the captor x you commit to a mix of wet/dry. You cannot change mics or cabs after recording. By moving the cab IR part into genome you now have all the options (except your pre amp settings) to change the sound.

This is much faster and gets better results than trying to fix things with eq in the mix.

It took me a long time to realise this. And also on their website if you read about genome they claim it's the succesor to torpedo remote and wall of sound

For me it works much better than torpedo remote or WOS. I highly recommend trying it out.

There is a section in the presets that is setup for just cab IR. You can even add a power amp if you only have a pedal/pre amp.