Empty Fix - The Tide: Alternative metal mixing challenge

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Hey there Emiel! Dig the song man. Was up early and thought I would throw together a mix.

Cheers! :drunk:
 

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Oh wow, first off, thanks. I've come a good way since this - learned and just began using bus compression on vocals and compression techniques with drums on my most recent personal track.

Funny, I had to go back and listen, maybe it is not an accent, but in the the spoken parts... I suppose it is more the phrasing and accentuation. It gives me kind of a Nordic vibe. And then you got the nice rolled R in there keeping it interesting :D
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Folks round here turned me onto parallel compression. Like applying parallel compression on each individual dadgum track, then puttin em in bus compression to glue them together like Peggy's biscuits n gravy.
 
JimmyS1969 said:
Can't give away the secrets! Lol

Yeah, layered in samples on the snare, kick and toms. Plus parallel compression on all the drums.
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What did you use for drum samples? EZ Drummer? Superior? I use EZ Drummer and others depending on what the song is.
 
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Mostly SS Trigger Platinum samples. Also in there as support there is a sample from 'Poor Some Sugar On Me' that I made once for another project. 😂
 
JimmyS1969 said:
Mostly SS Trigger Platinum samples. Also in there as support there is a sample from 'Poor Some Sugar On Me' that I made once for another project. 😂
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I have to try the Steven Slate stuff - the snare you used was great - it had impact and a quality to the tone that really worked.
 
Might have been from the Terry Date sample pack. I can see what I used when I get back to studio.
 
Nope, just stock SS Trigger samples plus the one I lifted from Pour Some Sugar On Me. I also ran snare and toms through 'Silencer'. Its a drum plugin that does an awesome job of isolating individual drums without cymbal bleed. I find it an absolute necessity for real drums now. Especially when layering with a drum sampler.

Anyhoo, here are the individual snare samples I used and one with all samples together.
 

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JimmyS1969 said:
Nope, just stock SS Trigger samples plus the one I lifted from Pour Some Sugar On Me. I also ran snare and toms through 'Silencer'. Its a drum plugin that does an awesome job of isolating individual drums without cymbal bleed. I find it an absolute necessity for real drums now. Especially when layering with a drum sampler.

Anyhoo, here are the individual snare samples I used and one with all samples together.
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Yeah that’s pretty neat - I do a version of the silencer plugin - just with 3 plugins instead of the one. I changed the guitars tone - but it seem like you didn’t do much - did you?
 
Naw, just a slight boost at 1.5k and rolled off at 50hz.
Bass gtr I massaged with 'Element Bass'.
Vocals I used 'Howard Benson Vocals'.
The only verb used is Soundtoys-'Little Plate'.
 
JimmyS1969 said:
Naw, just a slight boost at 1.5k and rolled off at 50hz.
Bass gtr I massaged with 'Element Bass'.
Vocals I used 'Howard Benson Vocals'.
The only verb used is Soundtoys-'Little Plate'.
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Well I did a ton to everything - not that it needed it - but I wanted to - the best change was isolating the drums - I use Logic and its tools to get it done - only problematic ones were the highhat and bass drum 3 - all of the drums I replaced except for the overheads - but Iincluded some of the originals after I isolated them - I looked up Howard Benson Vocals - Handy tool it seems - I essentially do a similar setup but with plugins and tripling and micro delaying the Vocal tracks - which gives the same effect as a Doubler but with more control - Element Bass is an interesting plugin - I use Helix Native which is the same idea - you’ve got a good package - I have Little Plate - but have a cornucopia of reverbs - plates- chambers - convolution and IRs - I used to use the Abbey Road Plates and Chambers -- now I mostly used Logics Reverbs - and the new Logic Quantec which has been fantastic - what DAW are you using?
 
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As we know, there are a million ways to get to a similar goal. None necessarily better, just different. Some approaches or plugs may be more efficient, but in the end it just comes down to what we like for the end results.

I'm a Cubase guy basically because it came with the first interface I purchased. And also my aversion to ProTools that was used at a studio I worked at. Much of my time seemed to be used dealing with crashes and limitations. Could have been user error involved, but Cubase workflow just seemed to 'fit' me I suppose.

I use Howard Benson on pretty much every vocal now. Might just be mostly to streamline my time more than anything. It's 'space' (reverb) is horrible, but every other option within it is either awesome or adequate. I have CLA vocals as well, but wasn't a fan of how it worked for me.

I have way too many $ plugs I rarely use. Though sometimes one of them does just the one trick pony that is needed. Hell, I payed like $700 for Vocalign when it first came out. Think I used it once. lol

For most of the work I do, Melodyne is pretty much essential. Hell, I once fixed a single incorrect open string note on a live guitar track with it.

My other most used $ plugs are probably the Fabfilter EQ and L2 limiter. Soundtoys Little Plate and Microshift. Waves H-Verb. Element Bass pretty much always - before that it was PSP Vintage Warmer for bass. Arouser is cool too. It's basically a digital Distressor.

Stock plugs have improved greatly since Cubase 4 (I'm on 13 now) so I use them for most basic EQ, delay, and modulation purposes.

Fun toyz! :LOL:
 
So here is one that I remixed again…this is a fun song to fool around with - I’ve noticed that the OPs @Emiel version has a different set of drums on it - or he cleaned them up considerably. Enjoy!
 

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Sounds cool man! Quite the different animal with that snare.

Lot's of mistriggers going on though. Wonder if they got wonky during export...
 
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