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My issue with no individual gun registration is then you can’t stop guns from flowing en masse to the street.
That is just a matter of new laws to fit the new paradigm. You or I aren't going to suddenly start buying guns to sell on the street illegally and anyone who does gets locked away for a long damn time. As well any street shit in possession. After a grandfather period if you have a gun you best well have a license to carry or to stir you go.

Background. I am not a a gun nut. Never owned until I moved to the woods where there are porcupines and the occasional rabid coyote that could fuck with my dog. Ain't had to shoot any yet but if it comes to that I can and will.
 
My issue with no individual gun registration is then you can’t stop guns from flowing en masse to the street, especially with no limits. I understand why people don’t want registration, but I don’t believe it’s a realistic fear in this country. It’s a real problem vs a theoretical one. No contest.
Plus there is no other way to get the gun nuts on board if you make them register their guns with the damned gummint.
 
That is just a matter of new laws to fit the new paradigm. You or I aren't going to suddenly start buying guns to sell on the street illegally and anyone who does gets locked away for a long damn time. As well any street shit in possession. After a grandfather period if you have a gun you best well have a license to carry or to stir you go.

Background. I am not a a gun nut. Never owned until I moved to the woods where there are porcupines and the occasional rabid coyote that could fuck with my dog. Ain't had to shoot any yet but if it comes to that I can and will.
I’ll take something over nothing.
 
As if liberalism was never going to become lawlessness in the streets... :cautious:
In reality it shouldn't. I assume you are younger than me but back in the day - 60s, 70s - liberalism was anti-war, women's rights, anti-racist in the most basic terms. None of this gender-bending, war-mongering, elitist, antifa claptrap that passes for "liberal" nowadays. Sure there were riots - but they almost always started as peaceful demonstrations. Do you know the Bowie tune Panic in Detroit? "The police had warned of repercussions. They followed none too soon." Cogent observation that.

Yeah I'm old. Bit jaded too. Sit down here son. Listen and learn.
 
In reality it shouldn't. I assume you are younger than me but back in the day - 60s, 70s - liberalism was anti-war, women's rights, anti-racist in the most basic terms. None of this gender-bending, war-mongering, elitist, antifa claptrap that passes for "liberal" nowadays. Sure there were riots - but they almost always started as peaceful demonstrations. Do you know the Bowie tune Panic in Detroit? "The police had warned of repercussions. They followed none too soon." Cogent observation that.

Yeah I'm old. Bit jaded too. Sit down here son. Listen and learn.
Come on, maaan... Give an inch, take a mile. That hasn't changed since Eve ate that damn apple! :sneaky:
 
In reality it shouldn't. I assume you are younger than me but back in the day - 60s, 70s - liberalism was anti-war, women's rights, anti-racist in the most basic terms. None of this gender-bending, war-mongering, elitist, antifa claptrap that passes for "liberal" nowadays. Sure there were riots - but they almost always started as peaceful demonstrations. Do you know the Bowie tune Panic in Detroit? "The police had warned of repercussions. They followed none too soon." Cogent observation that.

Yeah I'm old. Bit jaded too. Sit down here son. Listen and learn.
Liberalism is still anti-war, women's rights, anti-racist, etc. I submit that any perceived liberal elitism comes from feeling superior to those that are pro-war, anti women’s rights, racist, etc. I further submit that superiority would be justified.
 
Agreed, but…I have to wonder what would be different if we had a democrat that was say, 15 years younger and had no stutter or age related issues etc. What do you suppose would be different at this moment in time?
Nothing. The world would still be going to shit thanks to their socialist flag-waving policies.
 

Greed you say.

Like how Trump told everyone to start drinking Bud Light again after Anheuser-Busch lobbyists announced a 10k per plate fundraiser for Trump?

Like how Trump reversed his position on Tik Tok after meeting with billionaire Tik Tok investor Jeff Yass?

Let me know when conservatives want campaign finance reform. I won’t hold my breath.
 
I have watched Trump for over forty years. He is a despicable little man that I wouldn't let any where near my daughters, my wife or my wallet. It has nothing to do with his politics, he doesn't have any, any way the wind blows. He couldn't cut it as a democrat, couldn't con them, so he switched parties. I have to hand it to him though, he sure knows how to grift.
 
Seriously...?
The Bidens have literally sold out America to China. That's not to mention 384,000 acres of farm land (30% increase since 2019). Now the border is wide open....

Oh, What the hell am I doing here
 
Seriously...?
The Bidens have literally sold out America to China. That's not to mention 384,000 acres of farm land (30% increase since 2019). Now the border is wide open....

Oh, What the hell am I doing here
Alarmist much? Much or most of the farmland was sold before 2020. Did Trump sell it?

Right wing says the whole country is going to hell. That’s their strategy to keep you all pissed. Seems to be working.

 
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