The New Tone Thread

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Greg_L said:
I have. I don't pretend to know Jimi's specs or settings, but I know he wasn't using amps with a "pre amp" knob and I'm pretty sure he wasn't using cabs with Lansing speakers.
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Oh, so those are bullshit? I got them from different "Jimi's set up" sites. Fuckers.

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Ah shit. I just realized the picture with the "Pre-amp" knob comes from what I thought was an article on Hendrix. Turns out it seems to just be an ad for Amplitube or something. Those are just some guy's setting while he was trying to sound like Jimi. Fuckers.

https://www.guitarchalk.com/jimi-hendrix-amp-settings/
 
I thought Jimi's amp settings were just to screw the fuck out of daisy chained plexis? I didn't realise there was that much science to it unless you're trying to emulate it at bedroom volume on cheap modern gear.
 
Lt. Bob said:
yeah ..... I've never gotten the weight thing really ..... a 'light' guitar might weigh 7lbs and a 9lb guitar is 'heavy' ..... good lord , it's 2lbs ..... or maybe 3lbs if it's a really heavy git. 3lbs? .... how is that all of a sudden breaking my back? Lift a few weights!
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I do! :D Well, not right now....doctor's orders! I personally have never had any issue with the weight of a Les Paul. They're not that heavy. Being a gigging drummer I laugh at the complaints from guitar people. I load, haul, and use two Marshall almost-stacks when I gig on guitar, and that shit is a vacation compared to being the drummer.

that could well be .... isn't there usually a resistor between the two jacks. If so then that's eliminated when you use a 'Y' .... I can totally see it sounding different.
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Yup, I forget what that resistor is called, but it's there. When jumping channels I think it comes into play when going from low 1 to high 2. With the Y, the low input is avoided all together. Guitar signal goes straight into both high inputs. Sounds good to me. I'll do some comparison clips.

Lt. Bob said:
when he had the choice ..... I saw him in Baton Rouge when he was on the Monkees tour ... (that only lasted a few gigs but I saw it.) I don't remember what he used there but when he played Independence Hall they provided him with a backline of Sunn amps.
he complained about them all night long!
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Lol. Hendrix and the Monkees. What a crazy bill.
RAMI said:
Oh, so those are bullshit? I got them from different "Jimi's set up" sites. Fuckers.
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I don't know what he used. Maybe it's like Boob mentioned and he sometimes used what was available. Lots of bands have to do that sometimes.
 
Bob: Congrats on the RAH pedal Bob, as long as I've been in this thread, you've been wanting that thing. Glad to see you finally got one...I've listened to those vids countless times myself, & to me, it's the most accurate plexi in a pedal I've heard. I bet it's fuckin' awesome...Again congrats dude!!!!


Rami: If you're looking for a Marshall-y tone, without buying another amp, that RAH pedal may be a good option for ya dude, I'd totally forgotten about that thing....

Yeah guys, Greg says anyone can play the stuff he does, but don't let him fool you. He's a hell of a lot better than he gives himself credit for....


No news on my end today, still waiting on the ps for my computer....Pretty confident it'll fix it, but I'm totally prepared to go off the deep end if it doesn't....:D
 
If I do kick my computer's ass, I'll take the hard drives out first so I can continue with my songs/projects later on....

I always liked that movie with Michael Douglas myself, but hated the way it ended. I always wished he'd just kept going, fucking other people up....:)

Not just Mountain Dew there Greg, it's gotta be Diet Mountain Dew, I can't stand the "regular" Dew now, it's like drinking liquid sugar to me...

I really shouldn't complain, as I've had that thing for over 6 years now, but that doesn't mean that I won't....:D
 
At the risk of talking about tone as opposed to smashing your boss in the face with a keyboard...

Was just thinking - Glen Tipton often has a good tone. Its quite variable, sometimes goes quite dark and sludgy but its generally really good.
 
Tipton was one of my heroes in my teenage years, KK was good, but I just never cared for his sounds as much as I liked Tipton's....Their earlier albums were more straight up boosted Marshall, but from about 1986 or so (Turbo album), they started using guitar synth's & I lost interest in 'em...

Then I really lost interest when Halford came out of the closet...:laughings:

Oh yeah Jdude, I don't have a boss anymore man...:D

The last one I had though, I would've preferred to use my fist over a keyboard anytime...
 
Well, Jusad Priest aren't my normal sort of thing but Painkiller came up in my YouTube feed today and then I listened to a bit of British Steel and another one of the earlier ones that I can't remember the name of. It's a bit cheesy for me but they were fucking great musicians, Halford was an awesome singer. Heard an interview with him too, seems like a good guy.

I think I only really noticed Judas Preist when he came out actually. They were a bit before my time so I never really came across them but when he came out it attracted a bit of attention to them. I quite liked Budgie cos they're from South Wales (and Metallica covered Budgie) and JP do sound a bit like Budgie at times.

Got me thinking now though of what my favourite time actually is.. Probably the Chris Cornell/Kim Thyall tone off SuperUnknown. Think, dark and heavy but without being muddy and indistinct.
 
Just goes to show our age difference/generation gap Jdude...While I like some of Soundgarden's songs, I just never got into the whole "grunge" thing myself. I know they're not really a "grunge" band too, but they were threw into that category because of where they came from, & the kind of music that was popular at the time...

To me, anything before "Point of Entry", & after "Turbo" sucked horribly. I personally think they hit their peak with "Screaming for Vengeance", although there were a few songs on the 2 albums after that one that were ok, they mostly sucked because they'd sold out for commercial success, trying to keep up with the 1,000,000 other bands just like 'em at the time...

I personally didn't care for some of Halford's vocals, but the guitars always kept me interested (to a point), & IMO they had pretty good tones...
 
Yeah, I suppose his vocals are a bit Yngwie aren't they? Technically impressive to see but I wouldn't want to listen to an hour of it!
 
JDOD said:
Yeah, I suppose his vocals are a bit Yngwie aren't they? Technically impressive to see but I wouldn't want to listen to an hour of it!
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Yeah man, the vocals are especially cheesy, but the guitars/music are killer on some of their stuff, which is about par for the course for most music in this category....
 
Okay fuckers, if you aren't sick of my new Custom yet, you will be now.

So I did what JDOD suggested and did a basic blues progression with messy shit leads all over it using both guitars.

The lineup is this...
Gibson Les Paul Custom - original T-Top neck/bridge pickups
Gibson Les Paul Traditional - 57 Classic neck/Burstbucker 3 bridge

Rhythms:
Left - LP Custom, neck pickup with the vol rolled way down
Right - LP Traditional, neck pickup with the vol rolled way down

Leads:
First lead is the Goldtop Traditional. Starts on neck pickup rolled way down, then goes to neck pickup full blast, then switches to bridge rolled down about halfway, then bridge full blast.
Second lead is the Custom, same scenario. Neck low, neck full, bridge about half, bridge full power.

Marshall Plexi 1987x - 50 watt
Presence - 5
Bass - 4
Mid - 8
Treb - 4
Vol 1 - 5
Vol 2 - 2
Y-cable into both high inputs.
Weber Mass attenuator down to around 4.
Marshall 1960A 4x12
Greenback, Audix i5, on axis, on grill, dustcap/cone seam
G12-65, SM57, on axis, on grill, dead center
50/50 blend
No EQ or FX on guitars
Direct bass
Fake ass drums

See what you think of a hack punk rocker trying some blues. :facepalm:

Blues Gives Me The Blues
 
Greg_L said:
Okay fuckers, if you aren't sick of my new Custom yet, you will be now.

So I did what JDOD suggested and did a basic blues progression with messy shit leads all over it using both guitars.

The lineup is this...
Gibson Les Paul Custom - original T-Top neck/bridge pickups
Gibson Les Paul Traditional - 57 Classic neck/Burstbucker 3 bridge

Rhythms:
Left - LP Custom, neck pickup with the vol rolled way down
Right - LP Traditional, neck pickup with the vol rolled way down

Leads:
First lead is the Goldtop Traditional. Starts on neck pickup rolled way down, then goes to neck pickup full blast, then switches to bridge rolled down about halfway, then bridge full blast.
Second lead is the Custom, same scenario. Neck low, neck full, bridge about half, bridge full power.

Marshall Plexi 1987x - 50 watt
Presence - 5
Bass - 4
Mid - 8
Treb - 4
Vol 1 - 5
Vol 2 - 2
Y-cable into both high inputs.
Weber Mass attenuator down to around 4.
Marshall 1960A 4x12
Greenback, Audix i5, on axis, on grill, dustcap/cone seam
G12-65, SM57, on axis, on grill, dead center
50/50 blend
No EQ or FX on guitars
Direct bass
Fake ass drums

See what you think of a hack punk rocker trying some blues. :facepalm:

Blues Gives Me The Blues
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First of all, I fuckin' love the drum sound you got on this dude, did you try a new mic setup or something??? Whatever it you've done, it's fabulous....:D

Tones are good to me dude, they're similar to me, but there are little minute differences between 'em, especially when using the cleaner lead sounds....Pretty cool man...
 
HA! That's awesome! Greg playing 12 bar blues. Next thing people are going to try to convince me that black guys can golf and white guys can rap. :eek:

I can definitely hear the difference between the two rythm guitars. The leads, too, but not as much. Everything sounds great. The second lead is lower in volume so it seems to have less impact at first. On second listen, I turned it up. Sounds fantastic.
 
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