cakewalkKaKed
HOORAY FOR BOOBIES !!!
you broke it ...
you broke it ...
rayc
retroreprobate
Bob,
I doubt it but will consult the manual.
I doubt it but will consult the manual.
Bubba po
Tiny Stonehenge Moment
It's not bad, but the mix was better before the last tweak. Perhaps a slight cut at 6-8k will tame them enough.
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
Adjusted the mic placement, relabelled my speaker cloth and retracked the whole thing.
Better? I think so, its not as bright as the EQed one I did yesterday but doesn't have the harshness. Still a little on the darkside but a bit improvement.
View attachment Trad Metal Retrack.mp3
Better? I think so, its not as bright as the EQed one I did yesterday but doesn't have the harshness. Still a little on the darkside but a bit improvement.
View attachment Trad Metal Retrack.mp3
rayc
retroreprobate
Bob,
I'll go back one step and see if I can give the drums some ergs without causing that problem with the cymbals.
JDOD,
MUCH better mate. The bass is much clearer and there's meat with the guitar potatoes.
I'll go back one step and see if I can give the drums some ergs without causing that problem with the cymbals.
JDOD,
MUCH better mate. The bass is much clearer and there's meat with the guitar potatoes.
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
Cheers ray. I do seem to be in an ongoing battle between darkness and harshness. I'm keeping the fizz out though.
R
RAMI
Guest
Thanx man. And thanx for the advice. No, I'm not planning on going that route at all. I was considering it at a certain time because I was getting frustrated, but I managed to get some elbow grease in there and really worked with my amp to the point that I think I figured it out.
I was just curious about all those Amplitube amps, their models vs. the "real models", etc...One of the reasons I didn't go that route was actually because there were too many choices and I knew that would only make me go even more crazy.
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Greg_L
Banned
I agree. Ray, go back one tweak to where it was before and see if you can manipulate the drums alone.
That is much better. As you probably know, the dustcap doesn't really mean anything, it's just an easy to spot reference point. And the V30's dustcap is indeed pretty tiny.
Mic the dustcap seam on a V30, and it's pretty bright.
Mic the dustcap seam on a G12T-75, and it's much darker.
The V30 isn't a brighter speaker, the 75 just has a way bigger dustcap so you're miking it darker if that seam is your only consideration.
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
Yeah, I was using the dust-cap as my reference point for all my fiddling about. Realised that I had drifed back to using a similar position to what I was using with the Rocket 50. You couldn't go inside the dustcap on the R50 'cos it really did add a horrible harshness. The V30 doesn't suffer from the same problem.
Anyway - as I said - I don't want to mess about with this track too much 'cos its not on my "to do" list but with all the fiddling about I've learned something again which will be of use on the next song I'll be re-tracking.
Anyway - as I said - I don't want to mess about with this track too much 'cos its not on my "to do" list but with all the fiddling about I've learned something again which will be of use on the next song I'll be re-tracking.
jimistone
long standing member
I didn't listen to the first mix. this mix found good. the only nit I have is the cymble are too hot for my taste. the volumes not really too high..maybe just a tad too much 4K frequncy.
It is a kick as arrangement, riff, and grove...great playing too.
I really enjoyed it.
JDOD
therecordingrebels.com
Cheers, mate. The 3rd version at the top of this page is better again. Will sort the vocals out in a few weeks when I know I'll have time to work on them.
Quite surprised you like 80s metal, Jimi
jimistone
long standing member
I like a large variety of music. I played in an 80s hair band one timw. I have never played on a metal band but I like some metal.
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Greg_L
Banned
Back to the tones...
Been tracking guitars all day for one of my bands. This one came out pretty cool. We got this one punkasurfabilly thing, and here's my track for it.
Hallmark 60 Custom - SD P-Rails bridge - P-90 mode
Marshall JVM 410
Clean channel - Red mode
Bass - 10
Mid - 3.5
Treb - 10
Gain - 2
Ch vol - 8
Master vol - 4
Resonance - 0
Presence - 5
TC Elec Flashback Delay in loop - set pretty subtle
Boss Tremolo TR2 in front
Dunlop Crybaby 535Q at the end for noise
Marshall 1960B 4x12
G12T-75 - SM58 - on axis, on grill, halfway to edge
Vintage 30 - Audix i5 - on axis, on grill, halfway to edge
50/50 blend
No EQ or FX in DAW
Greg's Freakin Out
See what ya think.
Been tracking guitars all day for one of my bands. This one came out pretty cool. We got this one punkasurfabilly thing, and here's my track for it.
Hallmark 60 Custom - SD P-Rails bridge - P-90 mode
Marshall JVM 410
Clean channel - Red mode
Bass - 10
Mid - 3.5
Treb - 10
Gain - 2
Ch vol - 8
Master vol - 4
Resonance - 0
Presence - 5
TC Elec Flashback Delay in loop - set pretty subtle
Boss Tremolo TR2 in front
Dunlop Crybaby 535Q at the end for noise
Marshall 1960B 4x12
G12T-75 - SM58 - on axis, on grill, halfway to edge
Vintage 30 - Audix i5 - on axis, on grill, halfway to edge
50/50 blend
No EQ or FX in DAW
Greg's Freakin Out
See what ya think.
minerman
Tonetard
Pretty cool you blended the T-75 & V30 dude....I'm assuming you did this because you wanted the character of both speakers together, right??? Sounds pretty good, although it is a little harsh in the highs to me, but that might be the tremolo effect, plus I'm listening in my 'phones....
jimistone
long standing member
I like this a lot. It didn't sound harsh to me. It just has that p90 snap and sting to it. The bass strings had real tight and focus sound...no flabbyness. I love the tremelo too.
I thought it was a killer guitar tone.
I thought it was a killer guitar tone.
G
Greg_L
Banned
Thanks miner. I don't think it's harsh, but I've been in front of amps blasting all day.
There were no preconceived speaker-blending ideas when I did this. I mic'd each speaker thinking I'd choose one or the other. I ended up liking them together. It's just one of those happy accidents that happens when you try stuff.
Thanks jimi. This Hallmark Mosrite clone is a great guitar. It's really good for stuff like this because it doesn't really sustain very well. I know that shits all over what most guitarists want, but for this kind of sound, it's tight plucky punchiness is perfect.
Here's a quick thrown-together mix with my track and the other guy's track. He uses a Les Paul Studio with SD Invader smoldering hot pickups into a raging Marshall DSL and one of our old 8x10 Marshall cabs. I have no idea what speakers are in it. His cab was mic'd with an i5, a 57, and an e609. I used the 609 track only for his track on this song.
Freakin Out
minerman
Tonetard
The mix sounds great dude, maybe it was just my ears, phones or whatever making me think the first clip was a little harsh, I dunno...This clip sounds great man....makes my stuff sound like utter shit......
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Greg_L
Banned
The mix sounds great dude, maybe it was just my ears, phones or whatever making me think the first clip was a little harsh, I dunno...This clip sounds great man....makes my stuff sound like utter shit......
Haha, no dude. Your stuff sounds good.
See how that shit works though? My cleaner guitar next to his mess of noise? For this song, I think it's awesome.
minerman
Tonetard
To a point my stuff's ok, but it doesn't have the clarity yours does dude...my hat's off to ya man....
Yeah dude, I've learned more from you & a couple others here in the last couple years than I learned from everybody/everywhere else combined...
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Greg_L
Banned
Well thanks. I think it's just my monitoring environment is pretty good. And I have a pretty good pile of years doing this crap.