Noisy indie rock/pop...How may I improve the mix?

[atari_soldier]

I like this song but I'm not particularly happy with the mix. To put it in easy terms: it sounds kind of cheap.
Any idea where to start to make it sound more pro?

Here you go:

 

[easlern]

It seems to be kind of bright to me, I wonder if you might be hearing that too. I think it's just that guitar, maybe listen to the song a few times with the guitar at like half and see how you feel about it?

 

[atari_soldier]

It seems to be kind of bright to me, I wonder if you might be hearing that too. I think it's just that guitar, maybe listen to the song a few times with the guitar at like half and see how you feel about it?

That's very possible!
The hard thing is: I want it noisy, but still good sounds. I want GOOD noisy!

 

[easlern]

I see what you mean. Maybe you can use a bitcrusher or similar on the synths (if you're not already.) I really like softube (free) for dirtying things up.

 

[Crazy Luke]

Love the "Morrissey" vibe. Sounds like your using amp head sims without any amp cab sims. Try getting an amp cab loader, and put some cab IR's after your amp, so it sounds less ratty.

 

[atari_soldier]

Love the "Morrissey" vibe. Sounds like your using amp head sims without any amp cab sims. Try getting an amp cab loader, and put some cab IR's after your amp, so it sounds less ratty.

That's really interesting! Don't know if I heard of these things before. Can you name any brands or particular products that would be well suited for the task?

 

[Bruthish]

The best free one in my opinion, although I don't use them much is LePou and LeCab. Do a search you should be able to find them.

That guitar is really really brittle and I think you need to get some control on the tone. The cab sims will help. Everything else sounds not too bad.

 

[atari_soldier]

The best free one in my opinion, although I don't use them much is LePou and LeCab. Do a search you should be able to find them.

That guitar is really really brittle and I think you need to get some control on the tone. The cab sims will help. Everything else sounds not too bad.

It seems very complicated? And every IR I can find seems to aim for metal sounds?

 

[VomitHatSteve]

Yeah, the rhythm guitar is super-fizzy. What's your process for making them like that? Luke is right that it kind of sounds like a head with no cab. (But based on your last post, I assume that's not what you did.)

This genre is a much better match for your voice than EDM/pop. (Sorry, that sounds pretty backhanded, but I mean well.)

 

[atari_soldier]

Yeah, the rhythm guitar is super-fizzy. What's your process for making them like that? Luke is right that it kind of sounds like a head with no cab. (But based on your last post, I assume that's not what you did.)

Yeah it really sounded ridiculous
It was Amplitube 3+Big Fuzz (Big Muff-clone) from Guitar Rig...Don't remember the chain though..

I've start messing with different IRs now but it seems impossible to get a really fuzzy guitar (I'm thinking The Raveonettes!)
The clean sound is pretty good.

This is how I want it to sound:

 

[Robus]

I like the song. Good singing, keyboards, composition. The low end sounds nice, round and punchy. That guitar is all fizz. It's not a nice sound. I could hear a bright Vox tone, just on the edge of breakup when the high end gives that chiming sound.

 

[anoopbal]

Sounds really good.! It's vvery close to the video you had up.

If you could somehow keep the noise away from the guitar. The noise is fine, it is just cutting too much onto the guitar and takes over the guitar I think.

 

[mjbphotos]

Agree with the others, the rhythm guitar is fizzy and the cymbals build up to more fizziness.

 

[VomitHatSteve]

This is how I want it to sound:

Ok. I think I can see what you're going for and postulate where you went wrong.

You've got a pretty equivalent guitar tone in the intro when it's just the guitar, but it gets lost in fizz when everything else kicks in. I'd try doing more takes of the guitar with less fuzz. Start with the really fuzzy one on the intro, then when everything else comes in, switch to the less fuzzy ones so that they're less messy.