Feedback on Alternative Mix please? "Waiting"

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Hey guys, I'd like to hear some feedback on this, if you can please.

I bought a new bass (Stagg) over the weekend and wanted to re-do an older track with it, as well as some other things i've picked up. The apparent issue this time around (always something new apparently) was splashy-ness from cymbals. I love that the room mics and other kit mic mics pick up the cymbals, but this usually leads me to having to turn down the overhead mic in the mix since it's also coming from the other mics. If i cut that loudest hz from the other mics (in the cymbal region), it starts to sound phased out. so, i ended up turning the OH mics down a bit, and barely notched out areas around 2.5-4khz, gently, on other mics. there's also a weird issue at 2:54 that doesn't sound so hot on the OH's...not sure what happened there. it might have been the exact combination of cymbals i used at that exact hit. i combed through the compressors and eq to see if something there was giving it that extra splash.

I've started to add some gain around 13khz with a wide q to the master...i know that's also affecting the cymbals, but the problem area of the cymbals was lower and the Q didn't reach that far. does this have enough "shine"? a comment on a previous track stated that the vocals needed some highs added.

edit: if someone can specifically comment on the pre-outro section (3:10-3:40), i'd appreciate it. i think it came together pretty well with the vocal overlays and delays - are they are clear to you? can you pick each one out specifically? there is a lot going on in that section...8 total guitars, bass, a kit smashing, and all those vocals). i'm wondering how that specific part sounds. thnx

https://soundcloud.com/andrushkiwt/waiting

thanks!
 
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Sounds pretty good already :)
Can't really point out what exactly I'm hearing, but I get the feeling that the tracks are not "glued together"...
Maybe some compression/bus compression/ambience would help
 
Sounds pretty good already :)
Can't really point out what exactly I'm hearing, but I get the feeling that the tracks are not "glued together"...
Maybe some compression/bus compression/ambience would help

hmm. not a response i was anticipating. verb usually helps glue everything together, and it's in all the right places on this track. perhaps more verb on the guitars would help. this track is compressed (master buss) at 1.4:1, MBC (master buss) at 1.3:1 all bands, and a limiter +7 db w -0.01 threshold. as with all comments, that''ll now be in the back of my mind next time around, thanks!
 
Congratulations on the new bass. Bass playing sounds very good by the way. Maybe a tad boomy. I'm not hearing what you are hearing regarding the cymbals. When the layered guitars kick in, I lose track of what's happening on the high end. The mix seems a bit dark in those parts of the song (not in the softer parts). Sorry, that's all I've got.
 
I think it's a bit of a disheveled mess. I'm sorry but to my ears I'm not hearing any redeeming qualities in this mix. I think you need to undo all the cuts, and boosts, and compressions and start from scratch. You've overcooked it. You seem to be so caught up in "production" that you put the cart way before the horse. It seems that you've fallen into the same trap that most novices fall into - you overuse the endless DAW tools at your disposal. The list of things you "had" to do to get the mix sounding like this confirms it. Start with better sounds. Sounds that compliment each other and work together. None of it sounds natural or organic to me.
 
I think it's a bit of a disheveled mess. I'm sorry but to my ears I'm not hearing any redeeming qualities in this mix. I think you need to undo all the cuts, and boosts, and compressions and start from scratch. You've overcooked it. You seem to be so caught up in "production" that you put the cart way before the horse. It seems that you've fallen into the same trap that most novices fall into - you overuse the endless DAW tools at your disposal. The list of things you "had" to do to get the mix sounding like this confirms it. Start with better sounds. Sounds that compliment each other and work together. None of it sounds natural or organic to me.

I got "Page Not Found". Perhaps I'm the lucky one.
 
I think it's a bit of a disheveled mess. I'm sorry but to my ears I'm not hearing any redeeming qualities in this mix. I think you need to undo all the cuts, and boosts, and compressions and start from scratch. You've overcooked it. You seem to be so caught up in "production" that you put the cart way before the horse. It seems that you've fallen into the same trap that most novices fall into - you overuse the endless DAW tools at your disposal. The list of things you "had" to do to get the mix sounding like this confirms it. Start with better sounds. Sounds that compliment each other and work together. None of it sounds natural or organic to me.

In every forum, your posts make me laugh. Including this one ;) I dont Think I've met, virtually or physically, a more typical sour and upset at the world "rock star". I know your type bud, I've played in bands with you and see you in every corner of the net... Lurking and waiting to spew out something to satisfy your anger! .

Anyhow, it's not 1974, nothing wrong with some processing. The amount of messages, compliments, and questions about how I made this/that sound are telling me the opposite of what you are. Maybe you dont like my mix...no problem... But I seriously don't understand why you are even here. Every post from you, in every forum, is the most negative depressing and condescending thought one could imagine.

Who are you helping by sitting there with your Johnny Rotten poster wishing you could have "one last shot" because no one else knows how to rock like you?! Lol. Sorry man, some of these guys I respect here...some I don't. If Steen came in and critiqued this, I'd listen. You...I actually think I should do the exact opposite of what you say. :) the compression is minimal, so I'm not even sure what you know what youre hearing. And what "production" are you referring to? A pan? Panning is too produced for you? Youre so hardcore Greg. Thanks for the listen though bud
 
Haha, typical. Lost noob asks for feedback, doesn't get what he wants to hear, so he lashes out. Okay then. Keep making bad mixes. Keep listening to those you "respect" because they tell you what you want to hear. Good luck.
 
I got "Page Not Found". Perhaps I'm the lucky one.

1. not sure why that is, working on it
2. no one is making you listen to anything... i'm sure your songwriting and performances are incredibly better however, given your tone. i'm sorry to bother your surely amazing evening sir. thnx

edit: fixed
 
Haha, typical. Lost noob asks for feedback, doesn't get what he wants to hear, so he lashes out. Okay then. Keep making bad mixes. Keep listening to those you "respect" because they tell you what you want to hear. Good luck.

no buddy, saying "there isn't a single thing good here" is utter nonsense - that doesn't make me arrogant for saying so, it just means i'm not a total idiot! you hear someone being creative in ways other than "turning the amp to 11!" and you get mad. don't get mad. that's music today dude. you can help me out with some compression suggestions other than "turn off compression". there is 1 compressor. it's at 1.4:1. what are you hearing that's giving you that impression, i would honesty like to know. but your holier-than-thou attitude doesn't help anyone. we get it- you want everyone to just play and record live - but that's just not how it is. if you can't offer suggestions, why even comment? if you can't listen to it, then don't! haha. you're just funny dude.
 
Song link didn't work for me either. I followed the other link to your Soundcloud page and found it there.
 
Like I said man, if you only wanna listen to ego stroking from equally inexperienced "producers" then knock yourself out. You're in good company here in that regard these days. Good luck to you.
 

exactly. a reputation comment - because we're in high school. your zero thanks in the info by your name shows how much of a nice guy you are. he knows everything - no need to thank someone after 32,000 posts! eh, i'm over it.
 
It's cool man. Relax. You obviously think you have it all figured out. Good luck to you.
 
P.S. I thank people by actually typing out "thank you". I do it all the time. I'm not so lazy and disingenuous that I just hit a button.
 
It's cool man. Relax. You obviously think you have it all figured out. Good luck to you.

oh i definitely have some things figured out! lol. funny, when i saw your name, i was looking forward to what you had to say..i knew it wasn't your style of music. i couldn't take it seriously after "not one good thing". i can't say i've heard a track on here from anyone where i couldn't come up with a positive thing to say - not that i want only the positive, just the logic behind that thought. i want the negative, but your views are clearly tainted one way from the get-go. so why even bother?
 
I didn't say anything about "style" or genre. I only spoke on the mix. I think it's real bad.
 
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