Why is audio interface needed?

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No, I'm pretty sure most of us here realize there is no music business any more, and it's just a hobby. Not all of us, but most. I think with very few exceptions, the only "pro's" here are on the other side of the console (mixing engineers, Mastering engineers, etc....). Any musician here that thinks he's going to make a living playing music should and will wake up soon.


As for the rest, you're still wrong, but I love you anyway. :)
 
I have just read a review of that Behringer mic pre amp (I won't say where!) and it seems to be remarkably good for under 40quid.
Mind you, the reviewer IS using a Sennheiser cap' mic and says "noise is not an issue". That is not the same as saying you can use an SM57 on acoustic guitar with impunity! (I CAN do that with the KA6, the Scarlet 8i6 and even a Behringer 802 mixer into a 2496 card tho' the ZED 10 is rather better!). So...Not that bad BUT!

There is no monitoring path, only one mic input and of course you are relying on the quality of the OBSound. Yours seems to be quite good (as indeed is the sound in my HP laptop but it is far too much of a faff to use it. Much easier to just plug in the KA6!) but many, many PC system sounds are dire indeed. An AI gives you GUARANTEED quality levels of noise, distortion and headroom and those qualities will be TOTALLY out of the control of the computer. Even latency will be determined largely by the AI and its drivers. No computer that can run Win 7 or later should have any problems with 2 tracks and MIDI with a decent AI.

I am sorry Yan that kit is expensive in your country. It is no comfort I know but we get shafted here in UK! You can turn USA $ into £ just for starters and very often US prices are effectively doubled over here. ('cors', 20% VAT don't friggin' help!) .

And NO! We never argue! Perish the thought. Just gentlemanly, carefully reasoned, intellectual discussions. With the GREATEST respect shown on all sides!

Dave.
 
ecc83 said:
And NO! We never argue! Perish the thought. Just gentlemanly, carefully reasoned, intellectual discussions. With the GREATEST respect shown on all sides!
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Right. Unless someone's being a complete idiot. In which case they don't deserve any respect. :)
 
I know this is hard to believe with my chronic wit, fabulous typing skillz and good looks but I'm a little slow on the uptake.


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ecc83 said:
I am sorry Yan that kit is expensive in your country.
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You wouldn't believe how such imported things are expensive here. Beside the fact that they are pricey (because the freight, customs and government taxes) the level of wage here is too much smaller than in Europe and USA. While in the USA you won't find anyone earning less than USD 1500 here the federal minimum wage is USD 350. So, in the case of the UR22 posted that I found it for USD 120 on eBay the very same equipment bought by a brazilian would cost 12x more to him!

:(

This is one of the reasons why being a guitar player I never bought a Gibson Les Paul. I could save for that but I simply refuse to pay what would be a tag price of USD 10K in USA for a brand new stock axe.

:facepalm:
 
Actually, in most states the minimum wage in the US is $7.25 - fast food workers just tried a general walkout last week to get their minimum raised to $15.
 
mjbphotos said:
Actually, in most states the minimum wage in the US is $7.25 - fast food workers just tried a general walkout last week to get their minimum raised to $15.
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Very low for USA standards since a weekly 40 hours work load (here it is 44) will sum up USD 1160 per month what is still too much more than we have here (less than USD 2).

:eek:

With such low sallaries most of workers here still can have a fair life because basic stuff such as house rental and food are extremely cheap. The problem is that those people are doomed to live from hand to mouth. Thinking about a hobby that demands to buy stuff (specially electronics) is something practically impossible for them. Curiously there is a weird phenomena here: all of those people insists on buying the last model of cell phones (it is kind of a status sign among them) and are able to get in debt with the credit card for a long time just to exhibit it to their friends and family. And cell phones are expensive here: an iPhone 5s costs around USD 1300.

:confused:

Anyway, lucky mine that my earnings are way higher than the minimum although to click on the checkout button sometimes still makes me suffer!

:mad:
 
mjbphotos said:
Actually, in most states the minimum wage in the US is $7.25 - fast food workers just tried a general walkout last week to get their minimum raised to $15.
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UK minimum is presently £6.31 which today equates to $10.22, rather better than US but many here are pressing for a LIVING wage, i.e. one that takes into account the cost of living. There was a phone in on Radio 4 about this some months ago and a surprising number of employers said they were paying even basic staff more than the minimum because they felt it was a scandal and borderline immoral.

It could be argued that a person in the food industry is of rather more benefit to society at large than anyone in the "pop" world!

But! WE all knows who's going to be up against the wall come The Revolution!

Dave.
 
No doubt that doubling the min wage for a fast food worker would end up closing the restaurants quickly, but another complaint those workers have is they don't even get enough hours to be full-time, so get no benefits either.

Yan - there are more people living paycheck-to-paycheck in the US than you'd imagine, but most of them, too, have the latest cellphone, and spend $XXX a month to be constantly facebooking, IMing, etc. :rolleyes:
 
The minimum wage in Australia is $16.38 per hour (about $15.50 US) and we have a McDonalds or Burger King (called Hungry Jack's here) or A. N. Other fast food place on every corner. More are opening rather than closing. Benefits, of course, aren't the issue here they are in the USA because we have universal Medicare.

Just sayin' that paying a fair wage isn't the end of the world.

...and don't be mislead by propaganda from right wing media on how well the poorest folk live. It ain't true.
 
mjbphotos said:
Yan - there are more people living paycheck-to-paycheck in the US than you'd imagine, but most of them, too, have the latest cellphone, and spend $XXX a month to be constantly facebooking, IMing, etc. :rolleyes:
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Ouch, seems that there is too much more people around the world without the minimum sense of priority than I imagined! This is really sad...

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Bobbsy said:
Just sayin' that paying a fair wage isn't the end of the world.
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OK, I am feeling myself a bit acid today, so here we go...

One of the problems on give such kind of raise is that it is like a chain reaction. If a parcel of workers get it soon all the unions will start a movement to get a proportional enhancement. I think that the bigger problem overall is not the fact to have a minimum wage but keep people receiving it for the life. Instead to raise the value of the hourly wage the government should obligate ALL companies to have a career plan and so all the employees would be raised as they get better at their duties (beside of course the in-house time). It would force people to get better as employee and human beings. I think that you should earn depending on what you desserve. Currently (and since 10 years ago) I work online for an an USA company that has an yearly sallary revision depending on the employee past year.

By the other hand, I already was an employer myself once and I know how is to be at the other side. Mostly of employees (normally the dumb-asses ooga-ooga non-specialized ones) think that the boss is a millionaire that is getting rich thanks to their exploration. Such people just wants to ask for more and more money but they rarely wants to be a better employee. And no matter how much money you give to them, they will want more. I remember when I owned a printshop years ago and had constant losses because wrong printing, machines broken because misuse, etc, that is, the employee thinks that the boss is mounted on a pile of money but they (the employees) don't give a shit for the company and its problems and losses.

Even being screwed by the employees, I remember that at that time I used to pay better than my competitors and also share part of the company profits monthly with the team.

Looking back today, the conclusion I get is that pay more won't bring any benefit for certain kind of workers. Neither for themselves neither for the company. For themselves because at the end of the day they still will be stupids ooga-oogas that waste their money with BS. My mom has always taught me that much more important than how much you EARN is how much you SPEND. The Math is simple. And for the company because a higher wage doesn't make an employee better or happier. So, why pay more?

:rolleyes:

Tho whose don't know what an 'ooga-ooga' is...

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Yep, stupid brainless cavemen that crowds the 5th class employment agencies...

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Bobbsy said:
The minimum wage in Australia is $16.38 per hour (about $15.50 US) and we have a McDonalds or Burger King (called Hungry Jack's here) or A. N. Other fast food place on every corner. More are opening rather than closing. Benefits, of course, aren't the issue here they are in the USA because we have universal Medicare.

Just sayin' that paying a fair wage isn't the end of the world.

...and don't be mislead by propaganda from right wing media on how well the poorest folk live. It ain't true.
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This could all get very political and nasty and I would hate that because we are talking about the discomfort, even suffering of millions of people.

I am not a particularly political animal. No "economist"* either! I just tend to look at the world and see massive inequality and greed. Yes Bobbsy, the minimum wage over here was introduced with dire warnings (all of course from people on 1000s of times the present level and then some!) that business would fail overnight and the economy would sink without trace. I am now old and bloody minded enough to think that if "business" can only survive by paying 75% of its workers starvation wages, LET it bloody fail!

As for the paycheck to paycheck issue. I have a pretty secure income being retired but in purely fluid cash terms I am only two months away from penury. Then I could max out CCard and hammer the bank for a couple of £k but then what?

* As a simple 'tronics guy I have to come to the conclusion that.....
Either economist have no clue as to WTF they are doing, or, IF they know the answers....
No government in any country has ever listened to them!

Put "medicine" into the above argument and we would all be dead by now!

Dave.
 
" My mom has always taught me that much more important than how much you EARN is how much you SPEND"
Mortgage/rent. utility bills, rates/community charge, food, transport (even if only to and from work) insurance, clothes, laundry, prescription medicine, dental care....The list goes on of things I, and I suspect most people here would call "core spending" and yet many people in this country of vast wealth cannot even afford the first five!

I have worked for many employers, one WAS a millionaire! 5 times over but I was not envious, it was HIS hard work and brilliance that had built up the business and he was, in general a pretty fair bloke with his staff. I do not Care much what my boss takes, so long as I get a fair shake. There are however deep inequalities..We all know that hospital workers are among the lowest paid in society? How than does anyone justify the final payout to a CEO of a relatively small mental hospital in the relatively small, provincial town of Nothampton of £751,000 ? (in our local paper tonight) Its enough to drive you mad!

Dave.
 
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