Next level..

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All kidding aside. You mentioned you have Rokit 8s. Me, too; Greg, too; probably others on this site. Those are not some cheapo alternative to real studio monitors. They work pretty darned good for us home recording enthusiasts.
The single most important thing that you can do is hear what's actually being recorded. Most bang for the buck is going to come from room treatment. Everyone here is trying to give that answer.
The first response to your question was also brilliant. Learn about such topics as "over compressed", "subtractive eq", "ear training", etc. Get in the mp3 and mix this forums and maybe grab some stems and see how well you can "mix this".
Happy recording!
 
RAMI, did you forget that you are a "calming effect" on this site?
You do, indeed, have a talent for getting people riled up. Didn't see anything you said that would've offended me, and I think we can all agree I'm pretty quickly riled! :p
 
RAMI, Didn't see anything you said that would've offended me
There wasn't. Only one person found anything offensive. I know everyone else that witnessed this can see that I tried to help. Meh, what can you do? I've totally lost interest.........:)


Rock on!!!!!!!

:D
 
Great thread! :thumbs up: :)

These first two pages were a real treat this morning with my coffee and bagel.

Don't quit now Jon A Than...the weekend just started and this thread could make the Newsletter by next weekend if properly nurtured and supported.
You need to keep your left elbow up when you swing, and eyes always on the ball ....these guys are just lobbing them at you for now....you haven't seen the fast balls yet. :D
 
Room treatment is always gonna come up when a new guy starts asking about improving their skill set and rightfully so, sooner or later you are going to have to address it and at the very least acknowledge it so you can compensate when needed. You can learn what your listening space is doing to your music over time. In HOME recording you make due with what you have and what you can afford.
 
It's good to see the welcoming committee is still hard at work. :)
Watch Jiggy fellas! He'll go lie and tattle to the Administrator and try to get you banned if your opinion differs from his. He's one of those self-righteous, self-important, pompous kind of people who like to try and impose their view of morality and the world on others. The best thing to do with these types is to just ignore them. They hate that! LOL!
 
HAHAHAHAHA Leave it to RAMI to always get me ROFL.

I agree with the others...biggest thing that will help get you to the next level is room treatment.



@RAMI

Keep on Trucking!!!!!!
 
I still regard myself as a relative noob on this site. Although I came to Home Recording with some knowledge and experience in recording work, I've learned a great deal more that I didn't even know I didn't know. I've spent time mining the old threads for info, and I think my work product has really improved as a result (and one of these days I may work up the guts to post some of it).

I never fail to be amazed at some of the newbies who burst into a forum full of swagger, confidence and opinion, and then get their panties in a knot when the humorous jostling gets a little too intense for them. Can't take a joke? If one is going to have ANY contact with the music business, on almost any level, the quick development of a thick skin and a sense of humor is essential. Nobody cares if you cry yourself to sleep at night, and high drama from anyone is an f-ing bore..

That first "opinion" about room treatment cut right to the heart of the matter. The crappy little cell that I do my recording in was not a treated room when I first signed up at HR. I learned about that stuff HERE, did what was suggested, and it made one hell of a difference in what I was hearing and the way I did my recording. I'm still tweaking it, in fact.

If the OP is still listening -- don't look for any improvement in your work to happen by itself. You have to take steps to make it happen, and the first step is getting the recording environment as right as you can make it. If you could successfully/optimally record in any old room in any old configuration, they'd be doing it in supermarkets; a little booth next to the aluminum can machine.
 
Had some lolz at this thread. Also had some smh moments.
It's sucks that I've seen so many people come here in the "Newbies" section within the last year or two looking for advice (admittedly with vague questions. probably because they don't have enough knowledge to know how to ask what they're trying to ask properly) and get run off. I use to always recommend HR to people, now I just direct them to youtube because it's embarrassing to see that the butthurt from new and old members alike here in this section makes the entire forum seem completely useless.

What did jigfresh do? He's a cool guy and from the little I've gotten to know him - the farthest from pompous.


Anyway ADVICE TO Jon A Than (if he even comes back) -

-You're making electronic stuff? Do you know much about synthesis?
Learning how to do your own sound design can get you to a different level sonically (because YOU'RE making YOUR sounds) and creatively (just the actual sound of that weird soundscape or bassline you program can inspire a melody or rhythm or something that you).
And if you're making your own sounds from scratch when you get around to mixing you won't have much to do because ideally you'll have achieved the sonic result you're after from the beginning.

I don't master my own stuff anymore so I can't offer any advice there.

-If you're not already doing this - save yourself some time by creating templates in your DAWs and using those for however long you want to (a day, a year, whatever). 1. It will save the time you take loading up new tracks and devices before you get to work and 2. By locking yourself to a certain set of instruments or processors within a template you'll by default define a period of time. (Say, you're only going to produce in a template that has 20 drum sounds and 4 instances of Massive for a year and whatever you produce within that year will be released as an album, or a live jam. or whatever you want it to be).

I've gotta to sleep now, but basically this:
Room treatment is always gonna come up when a new guy starts asking about improving their skill set and rightfully so, sooner or later you are going to have to address it and at the very least acknowledge it so you can compensate when needed. You can learn what your listening space is doing to your music over time. In HOME recording you make due with what you have and what you can afford.

Maybe you don't want or need it and that's fine. Maybe you'll go and build some bass traps. That's fine too.
I've heard some terribly mixed music from people with treated rooms, and I've heard some great sounding music for people with treated rooms. The same can be said for untreated rooms. What's more important than having a hyper-accurate system, and perfect room, is knowing your system and working hard.
 
The key part of the sentence is, "from the little I've gotten to know him". Perhaps you don't know him well enough. He's the kind of humanoid, who if you don't say what he thinks you should say, or think the way he thinks you should think, sends people insulting PM's. When they respond in kind, he copies their PM's and sends them to the Administrator trying to get them banned. Fortunately the Administrator is honest and fair, and when she saw his PM, the one in which he said,"Fuck you!" to another member, the one which he neglected to show her, she immediately un-banned the person she had, under false pretenses, banned. Anyway, all is forgiven and life rolls on. Cheers.
 
Why is everthing in BOLD?

It's my crappy eyesight (astigmatism). I sometimes have problems reading the "lighter" black against a bright white screen, so I run everything in bold so I can proofread. If there's a long post, I'll sometimes highlight it so I can get through it without too much eye fatigue.

Must be all that time spent in a dim studio and dark bars. . .


If it's a nuisance, I'll just revert to squinting. . .:p
 
It's my crappy eyesight (astigmatism). I sometimes have problems reading the "lighter" black against a bright white screen, so I run everything in bold so I can proofread. If there's a long post, I'll sometimes highlight it so I can get through it without too much eye fatigue.

Must be all that time spent in a dim studio and dark bars. . .


If it's a nuisance, I'll just revert to squinting. . .:p
Just glad to have you here! Write BOLDLY as much as you'd like. I think I may have spent time in some of those same dim and dark places!
:cool:
 
The key part of the sentence is, "from the little I've gotten to know him". Perhaps you don't know him well enough. He's the kind of humanoid, who if you don't say what he thinks you should say, or think the way he thinks you should think, sends people insulting PM's. When they respond in kind, he copies their PM's and sends them to the Administrator trying to get them banned. Fortunately the Administrator is honest and fair, and when she saw his PM, the one in which he said,"Fuck you!" to another member, the one which he neglected to show her, she immediately un-banned the person she had, under false pretenses, banned. Anyway, all is forgiven and life rolls on. Cheers.

Cute story.

See you in class soon. Just 2 more weeks! :)
 

I never fail to be amazed at some of the newbies who burst into a forum full of swagger, confidence and opinion, and then get their panties in a knot when the humorous jostling gets a little too intense for them. Can't take a joke? If one is going to have ANY contact with the music business, on almost any level, the quick development of a thick skin and a sense of humor is essential.
Sense of humour, yes. Thick skin helps. But we need to be careful that we don't use someone else's sensitivity as a justification for our own sometime insensitivity. If I went to see the Doctor because I hurt my back and he or she asks me what I do for a living and my age and I say "I'm 51 and I do delivery work which involves lifting heavy stuff", I wouldn't take it too kindly if he or she said "Well what d'you expect, you bloody idiot ? Full and perfect health ? You're a road away from retirement and you insist on playing a young man's game ! Get a brain ! Get a life ! Sheeesh !"
Technically, they might be right but as I once asked a very crabby mate of mine that just used to drop bombs all over the place "What's more important to you; to get your point of view across or for the person you're speaking to to receive it ?"
I was actually surprised at her reply.

Watch Jiggy fellas! He'll go lie and tattle to the Administrator and try to get you banned if your opinion differs from his......

The key part of the sentence is, "from the little I've gotten to know him". Perhaps you don't know him well enough. He's the kind of humanoid, who.....
Hey, 'SploZ, that's a bit off innit ? Shouldn't this be your private war for you alone ? If anyone proves to be a problem on the site, the 'victims' will find out soon enough. We should be warned about advice given by individuals that is dangerous but trying to turn people against members is a poor show.
 
It's my crappy eyesight (astigmatism). I sometimes have problems reading the "lighter" black against a bright white screen, so I run everything in bold so I can proofread. If there's a long post, I'll sometimes highlight it so I can get through it without too much eye fatigue.

Must be all that time spent in a dim studio and dark bars. . .


If it's a nuisance, I'll just revert to squinting. . .:p

I guess then ideally you would want everyone here to type in bold too so you don't have to squint reading their posts. :D

What background are you using for HR (bottom left of the web pages)?
Try the one that is "No Background"....you will see more of a tan/beige color for the posts...it might be easier for you.
 
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