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Im mulling over a new cd, rock pop stuff this time. Im not worried about recording quality, that is my weakest link at the moment, more affordable to try and do it at home than in a studio where your lucky to get your investment back, but it's just a scratch demo of a few songs till I can improve my sound, I have like 7 I know i'm recording, need a few more.

Bust balls if you will, just looking for an ear to hear it.

SoundClick artist: CarlSongs - page with MP3 music downloads
 
Listened to the first three, not detailed, but a minute or two into it. Hard to say much about the first two as the vocals were hard to understand and had a lot "room" effect in it. You might want to dry those out and pull them forward some.

The third one, Remember 2 forget, I could get a better feel for it, even though the whole thing was low (I just had to turn up the stereo), I could hear the vocals and it was easier to get a feel for where you were going with the song.

If you could take another crack at the first two and give it a bit of a different mix, it would be easier to get a better feel. The last one, R2F, pretty primitive, sees like if you're going to keep it like that, you might want to do it with an acoustic basic beat (just something keeping time)

Not too bad really on the last one. Others I couldn't say.
 
barry c said:
Bust balls if you will, just looking for an ear to hear it.

SoundClick artist: CarlSongs - page with MP3 music downloads
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It's definitely not my thing but I can hear through the mix and appreciate the writing chops. In some ways it reminds me of newish popular country music (which I don't know much about). It's tough to get into more detail without broaching recording quality, which you say you're not interested in. So, just out of curiosity, what kind of feedback were you looking for? And what are your not-recording-related plans to improve on what you already have? Sounds to me like the writing part is done on the three I heard.
 
fat_fleet said:
It's definitely not my thing but I can hear through the mix and appreciate the writing chops. In some ways it reminds me of newish popular country music (which I don't know much about). It's tough to get into more detail without broaching recording quality, which you say you're not interested in. So, just out of curiosity, what kind of feedback were you looking for? And what are your not-recording-related plans to improve on what you already have? Sounds to me like the writing part is done on the three I heard.
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Ya i figured it was not most peoples thing here, but it shouldnt really matter what style the music is, but I wouldnt do well critiquing heavy metal like your music, I dont know enough, Im pop/rock folk, but every genre has craft and skill involved, whter it's writing the lyrics, the guitar, drumming, the recording and production, it's just different, it's not songwriting craft.
 
barry c said:
Ya i figured it was not most peoples thing here, but it shouldnt really matter what style the music is, but I wouldnt do well critiquing heavy metal like your music, I dont know enough, Im pop/rock folk, but every genre has craft and skill involved, whter it's writing the lyrics, the guitar, drumming, the recording and production, it's just different, it's not songwriting craft.
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Well, as far as I know you've never heard my stuff so I won't take that "heavy metal" thing personally. I listen to all kinds of stuff, metal making up about 2%. But there is songwriting skill in metal, like anything else. Giving folk based music exclusive ownership of "songwriting" is a little naive.

barry c said:
Ya i figured it was not most peoples thing here,
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Actually quite a few people here make short pop music (that's not a knock, some of them are very good at it). And I like a lot of pop music, I'm just more in the jangly twee Velvet Undergroundy camp than the Springsteen/Hornsby/Americana camp.
 
fat_fleet said:
Well, as far as I know you've never heard my stuff so I won't take that "heavy metal" thing personally. I listen to all kinds of stuff, metal making up about 2%. But there is songwriting skill in metal, like anything else. Giving folk based music exclusive ownership of "songwriting" is a little naive.



Actually quite a few people here make short pop music (that's not a knock, some of them are very good at it). And I like a lot of pop music, I'm just more in the jangly twee Velvet Undergroundy camp than the Springsteen/Hornsby/Americana camp.
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Vincebus Eruptum-CD - Best Buy you had that link under your name earlier, thats why i figured it was either yours or something you liked.

I wouldnt be able to make heads or tails of this, I have no idea what is being sung, but Im sure there is plenty of skill in it, which is what I said, but you twisted it some other way.
 
Hey barry c,
Did you take your songs down? I went to your link but there was no music there.
 
Yes, cause the thread i presumed was for dissecting songs, and to show some writing, and not just talking about it. But twice when I posed songs,
I didnt get any feedback on the song really, just "not my thing, sounds ok, the mix is off"

Plus, you get people trying to "prove you wrong" by saying soemthing to make you feel like you dont know as much as they do.

When in fact, no matter if the song is good or bad, it doesnt change that there are well written, and poorly written songs out there, and
ither or can become successful, subjectivity allows for that, but to people who understand songwriting, there is more objectivity

"I like this song" is not useful feedback to somebody looking for feedback from OTHER songwriters, those comments are fine from regular music listeners, but you would have to think that people who frequent a forum and speak in threads like this, are wearing a slightly different cap.

In short, I took them down, for predictable responses.
 
barry c said:
Yes, cause the thread i presumed was for dissecting songs, and to show some writing, and not just talking about it. But twice when I posed songs,
I didnt get any feedback on the song really, just "not my thing, sounds ok, the mix is off"

Plus, you get people trying to "prove you wrong" by saying soemthing to make you feel like you dont know as much as they do.

When in fact, no matter if the song is good or bad, it doesnt change that there are well written, and poorly written songs out there, and
ither or can become successful, subjectivity allows for that, but to people who understand songwriting, there is more objectivity

"I like this song" is not useful feedback to somebody looking for feedback from OTHER songwriters, those comments are fine from regular music listeners, but you would have to think that people who frequent a forum and speak in threads like this, are wearing a slightly different cap.

In short, I took them down, for predictable responses.
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Translation: the troll got butthurt.
 
Greg_L said:
Translation: the troll got butthurt.
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Wrong again Sherlock. There was no bad responses as you can read. Only responses having to do with other things besides the song.

If the people were familiar with giving this kind of feedback, there would be much different responses, but seemingly they arent. Which is why my posts make more sense. this is a recording forum, that is the focus, you dont see me giving recording advice, because I know, I dont have much to offer. But you will never admit you dont in this case, you keep arguing, and losing.
 
barry c said:
Wrong again Sherlock. There was no bad responses as you can read. Only responses having to do with other things besides the song.

If the people were familiar with giving this kind of feedback, there would be much different responses, but seemingly they arent. Which is why my posts make more sense. this is a recording forum, that is the focus, you dont see me giving recording advice, because I know, I dont have much to offer. But you will never admit you dont in this case, you keep arguing, and losing.
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I made a statement about the mix as I stated, it was hard to hear the song/vocals/lyrics. I wasn't doing a mix this thing except to say, clean up the vocals so people can hear them. I don't think that was too much.

Besides, why did you verb the heck out of it when it was meant for song content? They should have been pretty basic recordings.
 
DM60 said:
I made a statement about the mix as I stated, it was hard to hear the song/vocals/lyrics. I wasn't doing a mix this thing except to say, clean up the vocals so people can hear them. I don't think that was too much.

Besides, why did you verb the heck out of it when it was meant for song content? They should have been pretty basic recordings.
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Im not complaining what you had to say, It's all valid, but I did say I wasnt worried about the recording, it was a scratch work recording. Ill try to clean it up
 
barry c said:
Wrong again Sherlock. There was no bad responses as you can read. Only responses having to do with other things besides the song.

If the people were familiar with giving this kind of feedback, there would be much different responses, but seemingly they arent. Which is why my posts make more sense. this is a recording forum, that is the focus, you dont see me giving recording advice, because I know, I dont have much to offer. But you will never admit you dont in this case, you keep arguing, and losing.
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What exactly am I losing? You didn't get the responses you were hoping for, so you took your ball and went home, right? Isn't that what happened? That's called being butthurt. It happens all the time in here. You're not special.
 
barry c said:
I didnt get any feedback on the song really, just "not my thing, sounds ok, the mix is off" [...] "I like this song" is not useful feedback to somebody looking for feedback from OTHER songwriters, those comments are fine from regular music listeners, but you would have to think that people who frequent a forum and speak in threads like this, are wearing a slightly different cap.
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I did ask you specific questions about what kind of feedback you were looking for and where you saw yourself going with them, to which you never responded... my feelings were hurt.
 
Ok, lets try this. Here is a song I wrote in response to an email I received from a guy making and indie film, it was high school themed.

I was asked if I had any songs about high school, i didnt at the time, so I put on my craft cap. What can I write? I think and reflect back on high school and recalled how all the jocks used to be sp popular and get the chicks, i did it with my amazing charm and staggering good looks, but I digress.

So I created a concept, a guy wanting to be "good at sports" so he can get women and be "cool". I write a melody and sing it like I believe a high school kid would, but at the time I only had guitar and a drum program and rolled with it.

Guy loved the song, but wasn't sure if it would fit in anywhere, but thought we could easily use it as a segway, if it was better recorded.

I wasnt becoming an engineer over night, and i wasnt going to make enough money to warrant recording it in a good studio.

Anyway, the song wasnt chosen, but the movie never made it to film anyway, lol. those things are fickle.

But here it is: no verb, recording should be good enough

SoundClick artist: CarlSongs - page with MP3 music downloads
 
Greg_L said:
lol @ crafted
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Yes, taking a concept from inception to finished song, crafting a story that relates back to the title/hook, without veering away from it, one that is easy to understand. And having a melody and music that supports it, and makes it believable.

it's garage rock, but as I said, even the music you like has craft in it. The song didnt come together by magic, I worked on it.

Tried different verses, different melodys, etc.

Writing a specific song is very hard to do. You hands are tied into that little window of acceptable.
 
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