T's and s's on vocals

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I just mastered the song and im wondering if the vocals t's and s's are too bright? Any opinions? Should it be remixed?
Thanks in advance!

 
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You asked for opinions so, were it me, I would definitely treat some of those sounds. I'd go in and edit the waveform by isolating the offending consonants and reducing their level as opposed to using a de-esser.
 
If that's the mastered version their not too bad, I could live with them, but if you want to be sure and leave some room to push your master then I agree with "dug dog" you should edit those sounds by lowering the gain on them.
 
Thank you for the reply! I will post a new version as soon as im ready.
 
Sounds really good to me. I would possibly reduce the levels in places like Dug Dog said but it's pretty fine as is. Nothing offensive stands out too much.

Great tune. Really enjoyed it. :thumbs up:
 
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Around said:
Thank you for the reply! I will post a new version as soon as im ready.
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Remember what your original statement was (mastered). If it is mastered, then it is fine. There is nothing wrong with the mix. But if it is going to be further processed (mastered), then your levels are a little high (pushing near 0 dB.) Which leaves no room for a final mastering.

Hope you understand what everyone is saying, cause mixing is not mastering. :D
 
Yea, thanks! No, I won't further master the mastered track. I'll try to lower the s's and t's a bit and maybe lower the higher frequencies a bit. Grateful for the feedback!

- "mixing is not mastering" This bit I do understand :)

DM60 said:
Remember what your original statement was (mastered). If it is mastered, then it is fine. There is nothing wrong with the mix. But if it is going to be further processed (mastered), then your levels are a little high (pushing near 0 dB.) Which leaves no room for a final mastering.

Hope you understand what everyone is saying, cause mixing is not mastering. :D
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I thought the T's and S's were fine. I think you could probably bring up the vocal just a nudge.

I didn't care for the kick sound. Too thuddy to me. The bass could use some definition.

But I thought it sounded pretty good overall.
 
the vocals don't sound harsh on my neumann monitors, they usually reveal harshness easily. It's a warm sounding mix, reminds me of radiohead. I agree with tripleM though about the kick not being right, it could do with more high end and the bass guitar also lacks second and third harmonics at times.
 
Btyre2013 said:
the vocals don't sound harsh on my neumann monitors, they usually reveal harshness easily. It's a warm sounding mix, reminds me of radiohead. I agree with tripleM though about the kick not being right, it could do with more high end and the bass guitar also lacks second and third harmonics at times.
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Hi, I agree about the drum as you and tripleM pointed out. I have lowered the "smack" sound a bit. What do you mean "second and third harmonics"? How can that be treated?
Thanks! And im a big fan of Radiohead.
 
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Hi, I agree about the drum as you and tripleM pointed out. I have lowered the "smack" sound a bit. What do you mean "second and third harmonics"? How can that be treated?
Thanks! And im a big fan of Radiohead.
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Hi, another word for it is overtones, so lets say you have a bass guitar which the fundimental note that resonates at around 60Hz, the second harmonic is 120Hz and the third harmonic is 240Hz, you can often improve bass guitar sounds by only boosting the right harmonics with EQ, it's just a matter of finding the right frequency for the songs key, I hardly ever mix something without boosting the bass guitars harmonics to help it sound good (within the mix)
 
I don't ever 'boost' EQ at harmonic frequencies. Maybe cut the overbearing dominant ones, and possibly add some saturation to the upper end of a bass...

The bass is lacking in the low end frequencies IMO. Screw the second and third order whatever.. :)

Suppose it is the same thing in a round about way.
 
jimmys69 said:
I don't ever 'boost' EQ at harmonic frequencies. Maybe cut the overbearing dominant ones, and possibly add some saturation to the upper end of a bass...
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indeed, that's the other approach, boost or cut, hopefully it will get the same or similar results. When I started mixing I only ever used to cut and never boost, but now I do both, I also know some people that only ever boost. Notch filtering out the nasties is always a good thing
 
jimmys69 said:
I really gotta get me some of those Neumann monitors! :)
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No kidding. I didn't even know they made monitors. Did a quick google on them. I'd love to try them out. Pretty big price range. I'd prefer the most expensive pair please. :)
 
TripleM said:
No kidding. I didn't even know they made monitors. Did a quick google on them. I'd love to try them out. Pretty big price range. I'd prefer the most expensive pair please. :)
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We could split the cost. You get them every other weekend. :)
 
Thank you for your feedback. I've been tweaking back and forth now and here is a new mastered version. If you're able to hear it out again...

 
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