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Last week I was trying to figure out if I had bitten off more than I could chew.... but my bride and fellow musicians were counting on me to not only mix our tracts but to master them as well..... I couldn't get the vocals right... I was at a loss .... that's when I started reading and browsing here on Home Recording... wow... what a difference a few days can make. Just uploaded the latest mix of "There Will Come a Day" to our Reverb site.. Good4U Music, Lyrics, Songs, and Videos I am hoping some of you old timers might entertain the thought of putting your ear on it and letting me know if I'm heading in the right direction. Thanks in advance. I love this place.
 
Hey there, I am no old timer yet, but just a tip, most people will tell you to post this over in the MP3 clinic on this site.

Some first impressions listening on PC speakers at work:
- Nice vibe! Has sort of an "analog" vibe to it
- Great vocal tone/timbre

Some small things that are probably just my taste:
- Drums are so quiet that it loses any groove/punch the song probably has when you hear it being played in a room. Most importantly the kick is almost non-existent. However, you may want that effect for this, I'm not sure.
- Sax a little too up front. I can tell it was close-mic'ed, so put a room reverb (very slightly) on it with a very short sustain just for some early reflections. If you wish to have a longer reverb tail than a short room, do a short room bus first, then bus it to another plate or hall reverb and mix it in to taste
- Try some saturation on the bass to give it some je-ne-c'est-quoi and finding the upper harmonic where it stands out in the mix. A little low end couldn't hurt either. No rule of thumb but bass low end anywhere from 60-90hz at a fairly narrow boost, and bass upper harmonic close to 1.5k-3.5k.
- Guitars were a little low for me too. So I guess that would mean, instead of turning everything up (like drums bass and guitars), you could bring those vocals down a hair or two as well as the sax.

Again that is just a taste thing most likely. I dug it!
 
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goodstudios said:
Last week I was trying to figure out if I had bitten off more than I could chew.... but my bride and fellow musicians were counting on me to not only mix our tracts but to master them as well..... I couldn't get the vocals right... I was at a loss .... that's when I started reading and browsing here on Home Recording... wow... what a difference a few days can make. Just uploaded the latest mix of "There Will Come a Day" to our Reverb site.. Good4U Music, Lyrics, Songs, and Videos I am hoping some of you old timers might entertain the thought of putting your ear on it and letting me know if I'm heading in the right direction. Thanks in advance. I love this place.
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OK, this is about the 5th thread you've either started or found an excuse to post your song in. We get it. You made a recording, like everyone else that comes here at some point in time. Enough already.
 
Thanks for the input... I'm still at it... but I think i've addressed most of this.... seems and endless task....lol
 
RAMI said:
OK, this is about the 5th thread you've either started or found an excuse to post your song in. We get it. You made a recording, like everyone else that comes here at some point in time. Enough already.
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Thanks for the input. I’ll try to curb my enthusiasm ... Did ya have a chance to listen to it?
 
lol you know i thought that before just never said anything :P
 
CMB Studios said:
being enthusiastic and annoying are completely different things
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so you are saying? Honestly, I was hoping I could find someone that would listen, give constructive feedback, so I could make nessasary corrections in my current "home recording". If that is annoying...... Hmmmm I did find some great resources here in a short time and I hope that I am also able to give in areas that I am equally knowlegable...... you see I have spent the vast majority of my life perfecting song writing through a multitude of avenues, i.e., workshops, evaluations, contests, etc.... it's been a beautiful ride. Now, my bride and I, when we are not performing/writing/recording/ help others by giving of our time and talents to our communites in providing venues and opportunities for other writers to be heard. It's been a wonderful experience. I noticed you commented on this post but didn't comment of give anything in the way of constructive advice on the mix I offered up. Thank you in advance for that. I see you have a lot of litte green squares by your name... I would anticipate being able to glean much from such an offering. Thank you.
 
I'll have a listen later dude. Busy now.

And post things you want listened to in the MP3 clinic, generally.

Cheers
 
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so you are saying? Honestly, I was hoping I could find someone that would listen, give constructive feedback, so I could make nessasary corrections in my current "home recording". If that is annoying...... Hmmmm I did find some great resources here in a short time and I hope that I am also able to give in areas that I am equally knowlegable...... you see I have spent the vast majority of my life perfecting song writing through a multitude of avenues, i.e., workshops, evaluations, contests, etc.... it's been a beautiful ride. Now, my bride and I, when we are not performing/writing/recording/ help others by giving of our time and talents to our communites in providing venues and opportunities for other writers to be heard. It's been a wonderful experience. I noticed you commented on this post but didn't comment of give anything in the way of constructive advice on the mix I offered up. Thank you in advance for that. I see you have a lot of litte green squares by your name... I would anticipate being able to glean much from such an offering. Thank you.
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well first ..... you don't post a single song multiple times ..... they go in the MP3 forum ..... period. And they go once.
Posting songs elsewhere only works once until it becomes obvious the poster has no regard for the rules and etiquette of the board. Then no one will listen to anything from ya' so do as you wish but it is the norm here to post songs in the MP3 forum and that's the only place you're gonna get critiques.
Further ..... the giving something back thing has to do with this forum and the MP3 clinic. Generally people who never bother to comment and/or give critiques of anyone else's tunes don't tend to get many listens.
Whatever you and your bride give to the local food bank or charities or whatever has nothing to do with that besides the fact that we have no way to know if it's even true.
However ...... giving 40 million to your local community doesn't get you any listens in here ....... listening to other's songs will.

I'm giving useful advice here ...... do with it what you will.
 
OK, so a few comments

1. The guitar in the right channel lacks bite for my tastes and is over-reverbed. Not sure what you can do about the tone without re-recording it, but I'd certainly take a bit of the reverb off it. It's particularly noticeable when it's playing the little leady bits. Less OD would work better... I'd brighten it up a bit with EQ at the least.... it's very dark and low.

2. Correspondingly I'd turn the sax in the left hand channel down a touch... they're a bit out of balance. Sax in itself sounds good though...

3. Kick drum is very cardboardy and needs to come up in the mix a touch.

4. When you're doing the little lead solo bit from about 1:36, centre it... sounds weird in the same spot out on the right.

(If you do re-record the guitar.... don't get offended... those lead noodly bits and the lead solo itself are so, so, so very old and cliched... make up new bits... extend the guitarist, whoever it is... Also, lose that last bit just at the end of the song - just my opinion - YMMV)

5. I'm hearing some weird phasy stuff on the main vocal after the solo, perhaps it was there all the time and I only just noticed. Possibly it's the reverbnation encryption of your file... (seriously, you want proper feedback, post a high resolution MP3 clip, not a link to a page... that's one reason everyone's a bit suspicious of you...)

6. Your fade out cuts off too soon at the end of the toon.

Not bad... but I'd be doing a bit more work before playing it anywhere. Hope that helps.

Cheers
 
goodstudios said:
so you are saying? Honestly, I was hoping I could find someone that would listen, give constructive feedback, so I could make nessasary corrections in my current "home recording". If that is annoying...... Hmmmm I did find some great resources here in a short time and I hope that I am also able to give in areas that I am equally knowlegable...... you see I have spent the vast majority of my life perfecting song writing through a multitude of avenues, i.e., workshops, evaluations, contests, etc.... it's been a beautiful ride. Now, my bride and I, when we are not performing/writing/recording/ help others by giving of our time and talents to our communites in providing venues and opportunities for other writers to be heard. It's been a wonderful experience. I noticed you commented on this post but didn't comment of give anything in the way of constructive advice on the mix I offered up. Thank you in advance for that. I see you have a lot of litte green squares by your name... I would anticipate being able to glean much from such an offering. Thank you.
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touching story, really... but i think you'll find it hard for anyone here to give a shit about your wonderful thankful experiences... and everyone here has spent that majority of their life "perfecting songwriting" so get off your high horse.

Stop posting the same song over and over again in places where you dont post songs for critiques and you might get some responses. if you dont... it happens, get over it.
 
I have eleven green squares next to my name and some are different colours from the others. The dark ones mean than I'm picky about the use of the English language: if you've been married to your bride for any amount of time, she's no longer your bride - she's your old lady.

Music goes in the MP3 section, questions about mixing go here.
 
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