Looking for a trustworthy person to critique my upcoming EP

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RAMI said:
Good idea. I wouldn't want someone to steal my exercises and put them on the internet.

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also avoid photography as pictures have the potential to steal your soul...
 
How will he ever be able to trust people he's never met over the internet again.
 
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This thread did nothing for me if not cross-section the personality of this forum.:rolleyes:

Rod did bring up some valid points. You do need to be your own best critic. But getting the opinion of your mom or best friend may not be as productive as the "anonymous" opinion of a stranger. Only the most functional personal relationships will actually give you ideas for improvement, and a dysfunctional one will pick your work apart unnecessarily.

It sounded to me like CT's real fear was having unfinished work released too soon. I have that fear, and it should not be considered a reflection on the members' trustworthiness. Don't the terms and conditions of the forum have something in them about protecting the confidentiality of others? If they don't, they should. I think it's a given.

Whoever posted that making music for money is a dying possibility makes me scared. I know what you mean, and I can see the truth of it, but I'd really like to keep hope alive for the music industry. I only just got here!

CT, your genre description piques my interest as well. Can't wait to get a taste of your stuff, when you're ready.:cool:
 
Jammeez said:
Don't the terms and conditions of the forum have something in them about protecting the confidentiality of others? If they don't, they should. I think it's a given.
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It's in the Terms of Service (3.2), but it's also covered under copyright law which most countries agree to. However, the chance of making money off of music is really low without a ton of promotion and no one is going to spend money to promote someone else's music when they won't even promote their own. The OP's fears are unfounded, but I can understand his trepidation being new to the site.

As for the backlash, sometimes you need a thick skin if you're just going to jump in without testing the waters.

Hey Jammeez, welcome to the site and cool on you for supporting the OP.
 
Hi Jammeez... To me this issue is not related to the trustworthyness of any member. I think EVERYONE should take a minute and read the TOC of this site, as they are 'interesting' to say the least...... Generally people who post here do so with the knowledge that anything you do post is permanent, probably indexed in google, cannot be deleted and lives on even if you choose to delete your account.....

Many of us are a little older, and have been around the block and may be a tiny bit jaded (is that the right word?). So, to me the idea that someone is potentially out to steal 'my music' smacks a little of paranoia, and is kinda funny.

I would suggest that anyone actually posting music do so in the form of links, and links that you control. As hard as some people push to post to this site as attachments, that is a very bad idea, if only from the control aspect. If you post a link to media that you control you can remove it at any time. If you post as an attachment, you have absolutely no recourse as - after the editing window passes, you have no ability to remove the content whatsoever, a total loss of control.......

Jammeez said:
This thread did nothing for me if not cross-section the personality of this forum.:rolleyes:

Rod did bring up some valid points. You do need to be your own best critic. But getting the opinion of your mom or best friend may not be as productive as the "anonymous" opinion of a stranger. Only the most functional personal relationships will actually give you ideas for improvement, and a dysfunctional one will pick your work apart unnecessarily.

It sounded to me like CT's real fear was having unfinished work released too soon. I have that fear, and it should not be considered a reflection on the members' trustworthiness. Don't the terms and conditions of the forum have something in them about protecting the confidentiality of others? If they don't, they should. I think it's a given.

Whoever posted that making music for money is a dying possibility makes me scared. I know what you mean, and I can see the truth of it, but I'd really like to keep hope alive for the music industry. I only just got here!

CT, your genre description piques my interest as well. Can't wait to get a taste of your stuff, when you're ready.:cool:
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chuckduffy said:
If you post as an attachment, you have absolutely no recourse as - after the editing window passes, you have no ability to remove the content whatsoever, a total loss of control.......
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Not totally true; you can plead your case to a mod and ask them to remove the attachment. But the mods are very reluctant to delete posts and such, so the reasoning has to be good.
 
This thread just keeps going!

I don't actually understand the exact nature of the OP's concern and am curious, so I wondered if someone could explain it to me in layman's terms? I don't know what torrent or rapidshare is although I've heard the words used here occasionally.

Is the concern that someone might propose that they're willing to listen to your music and critique it, but would then instead decide to share it on the internet without your knowledge or even against your will?

If so, I truly don't understand what would motivate someone to do that, and I therefore can't imagine why that would be something to be concerned about. What would anyone gain from this? I'm asking this seriously, as I genuinely don't understand.
 
heatmiser said:
This thread just keeps going!

I don't actually understand the exact nature of the OP's concern and am curious, so I wondered if someone could explain it to me in layman's terms? I don't know what torrent or rapidshare is although I've heard the words used here occasionally.

Is the concern that someone might propose that they're willing to listen to your music and critique it, but would then instead decide to share it on the internet without your knowledge or even against your will?

If so, I truly don't understand what would motivate someone to do that, and I therefore can't imagine why that would be something to be concerned about. What would anyone gain from this? I'm asking this seriously, as I genuinely don't understand.
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A torrent is a means, or the actual file I should say, to share files....illegally.

Usually when a popular artist (Metallica is the shining example of this) comes out with a new album, it gets leaks on the internet by some asshole fan. This person doesn't want us a to leak his songs.

It's an understanding concern when you don't think about it. I've repeatedly said that we don't know about this guy. The internet doesn't know about him. We don't care and we would have nothing to gain by sharing his songs.
 
Ah yes, I remember Metallica was at the forefront of the anti-Napster movement back in the day. I listened to stuff on Napster at one time. The only things I ever downloaded were things I didn't like enough to actually buy, so it wasn't like I was cutting into anyone's sales or anything. Regardless, I understand in retrospect that it was probably illegal.

So, there's nothing inherently illegal about a torrent though, is there? I mean, you could share non-copywrited material that way too, right? Conversely, I could use any number of other methods to illegally share files if I wanted to...like Soundcloud or whatever if I chose to ignore their Terms and Conditions...
 
At the risk of bringing the discussion back on topic, I am more than happy to listen to your project and to provide honest, constructive feedback that you are free to heed or ignore.
 
I wonder how serious he really was!!!!!. I sent him a PM with a very good offer and quite a bit of legal advise (copyright stuff, etc) and thus far I have heard nothing. I would have thought that someone who wanted a "trustworthy critique" would have jumped at my offer.

David
 
I think you have a hard time understanding this because you aren't paranoid.

heatmiser said:
This thread just keeps going!

I don't actually understand the exact nature of the OP's concern and am curious, so I wondered if someone could explain it to me in layman's terms? I don't know what torrent or rapidshare is although I've heard the words used here occasionally.

Is the concern that someone might propose that they're willing to listen to your music and critique it, but would then instead decide to share it on the internet without your knowledge or even against your will?

If so, I truly don't understand what would motivate someone to do that, and I therefore can't imagine why that would be something to be concerned about. What would anyone gain from this? I'm asking this seriously, as I genuinely don't understand.
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