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RAMI
Guest
You know, I know the song, but that it was originally an English accent didn't really click until I read the post while I was listening... so I think your voice and style fits in really well.
I like LT's suggestion... I do my best singing after about half a bottle of red!
Cool song. Cool version. Nothing much wrong here for mine.
Is there going to be a RAMI cover album? Promise me you won't do any Bucks Fizz..
Thanx a lot guys. I really appreciate that.
I'll try a drunk/stoned version some time soon.
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RAMI
Guest
I finally fixed my "limited snare" problem.
I'm not posting to get any more listens, just wanted to share what I did hoping it might help someone one day.
For those who didn't follow the whole conversation, I was losing the crack of my snare just a bit after putting the tune through a limiter. I don't do heavy limiting so I know that wasn't the problem. I've also not had that kind of problem on any of my mixes since I first started "smashtering" my songs years ago.
What I found was there was too much snare going into the kk mic. I always have some bleed and it's never caused a problem. But this time, for whatever reason, the snare in the kik mic was pretty loud when I solo'd the kik mic. There was also another issue of my beater sort of bouncing off the skin a second time every time I hit it, but that's another issue.
So, my first instinct was to try a gate, even though I've never liked what a gate does to drums. You either lose some snap or some body, or hi-hats and snares make it passed the gate if you do whatever you need to do to keep the snap and body.
So, I had to do it surgically. I zoomed in on my bass drum track and cut out everything that wasn't a bass drum. Cleaned up the track a whole lot. Essentially what a gate does, excpet that I didn't have to worry about losing any snap or any body. I simply cut stuff out as close as I needed it.
Once I did that, I was actually able to turn up the snare, had more headroom to push the limiter a little more, and still had all the crack of my snare. It sounds the same as it did before being limited.
It was tedious and a little time consuming (half an hour), but definitely worth it. I'm not saying I'll need to do this every time. But it definitely helped this time. Think of the average volume being reduced just by cutting out all the unnecessary signal in the kik mic.
As a side note, I also wonder if the snare being so loud in the kik drum might have caused some phase issues that were taken care of by cleaning out all the snare hits in the kik mic.
I'm not posting to get any more listens, just wanted to share what I did hoping it might help someone one day.
For those who didn't follow the whole conversation, I was losing the crack of my snare just a bit after putting the tune through a limiter. I don't do heavy limiting so I know that wasn't the problem. I've also not had that kind of problem on any of my mixes since I first started "smashtering" my songs years ago.
What I found was there was too much snare going into the kk mic. I always have some bleed and it's never caused a problem. But this time, for whatever reason, the snare in the kik mic was pretty loud when I solo'd the kik mic. There was also another issue of my beater sort of bouncing off the skin a second time every time I hit it, but that's another issue.
So, my first instinct was to try a gate, even though I've never liked what a gate does to drums. You either lose some snap or some body, or hi-hats and snares make it passed the gate if you do whatever you need to do to keep the snap and body.
So, I had to do it surgically. I zoomed in on my bass drum track and cut out everything that wasn't a bass drum. Cleaned up the track a whole lot. Essentially what a gate does, excpet that I didn't have to worry about losing any snap or any body. I simply cut stuff out as close as I needed it.
Once I did that, I was actually able to turn up the snare, had more headroom to push the limiter a little more, and still had all the crack of my snare. It sounds the same as it did before being limited.
It was tedious and a little time consuming (half an hour), but definitely worth it. I'm not saying I'll need to do this every time. But it definitely helped this time. Think of the average volume being reduced just by cutting out all the unnecessary signal in the kik mic.
As a side note, I also wonder if the snare being so loud in the kik drum might have caused some phase issues that were taken care of by cleaning out all the snare hits in the kik mic.
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Greg_L
Banned
I'd bet that's what it was, but good for you for getting in there and getting dirty. That sounds like a lot of work!
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RAMI
Guest
Yeah, had to find the problem. I hate not knowing why "something" happens one time when it never happened before. It's a weird thing recording. You can do everything exactly like you did in your last tune, and gremlins somehow screwed something up.
It was a lot of work, but it was a good feeling knowing that, even if it doesn't solve the problem I'm hoping it will solve, it's got to help anyway. So, I knew I wasn't wasting my time either way.
But I don't have good eyes, and they were actually hurting by the time I finished.
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Greg_L
Banned
This very true. Especially with drums. I can track two songs back-to-back and something will be different with the snare or a tom or the kick or whatever. You can't just treat everything with presets and call it good.
Telegram Sam
New member
That's pretty cool man!
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RAMI
Guest
Thanx Sam!That's pretty cool man!
rayc
retroreprobate
Funky intro.
The soliloquy is well done but to my mind is redundant. I listen & mentally compared it to the original which is a silly thing for me to do. It'd be no issue for 1st time listeners I'm sure.
I'd have rather have heard a RAMI rant or ramble.
Nevetheless, it's a wonderful recording & the mix really holds up well. I like the guitars etc where you have them at this point - they rock & fill the spaces too.
Your bass sound seems tailor made for this kind of funkified rock.
Vocals - excellent.
The additional percussion sits really well with your kit playing.
Very cool!
The soliloquy is well done but to my mind is redundant. I listen & mentally compared it to the original which is a silly thing for me to do. It'd be no issue for 1st time listeners I'm sure.
I'd have rather have heard a RAMI rant or ramble.
Nevetheless, it's a wonderful recording & the mix really holds up well. I like the guitars etc where you have them at this point - they rock & fill the spaces too.
Your bass sound seems tailor made for this kind of funkified rock.
Vocals - excellent.
The additional percussion sits really well with your kit playing.
Very cool!
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RAMI
Guest
Not sure what you mean, Ray. The delivery? My voice? After taking years to get used to hearing my singing voice, I realized I now can't stand hearing my talking voice. What's worse is that I didn't want to try to sound British, but I also didn't want to just sound Canadian.
So, that's not even my accent. It's me trying to not sound stupid. 
I'm sure you've read a few.
Thanx a lot Ray. Much appreciated.
Give me suggestions on how that talking apart can be better, without totally trying to sound like Eric Burden. I seriously think Lt. Bob's idea of trying it with a buzz on can be ligit. Eve if it ain't, I'll try anything with a buzz on, so you know....
The beautiful thing about home recording is that we can re-track any time we want at no extra expense. So, I'll nail that part eventually. I know I have the timing perfect. I think it's the delivery that needs to be a little cooler sounding.
rayc
retroreprobate
All I meant about the talking part is that it's Eric Burdon out of it in the late 60's and I've heard it many times. I thought it may be appropriate to do a new ramble for the new century. You could talk about missing vinyl!
GREAT cover nevertheless.
GREAT cover nevertheless.
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RAMI
Guest
Ah, I see. Well, that's Eric Burden's fault, nothing I can do about that.
At least I left out the second verse. There's a longer version with a second verse that not too many people know about, so I kept it compact.
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moresound
Loud Sun Studios
Excellent choice RAMI and great job.
Usta play this song live, wish I got a nickle for every time I played it - Oh wait! I did!
Usta play this song live, wish I got a nickle for every time I played it - Oh wait! I did!