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William Craig
New member
Never mind, too many attitudes.
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Not wanting to use computer recording, what else do I need to use these models?
mjbphotos
Moderator
I think both of those digital recorders have been discontinued, but perhaps you are looking at used ones? The Tascam has different models with different input types (analog, digital).
Your 'recording board' (I assume you mean a mixing board with individual track outputs) is going to dictate what digital recorder to use - have you got one yet?
What else are you going to need? What have you got? Monitors, mics, cables, stands, headphones, pop filters .....
Your 'recording board' (I assume you mean a mixing board with individual track outputs) is going to dictate what digital recorder to use - have you got one yet?
What else are you going to need? What have you got? Monitors, mics, cables, stands, headphones, pop filters .....
witzendoz
Senior Member
I use a Tascam MX2424 (in fact I have 2), to use one with a mixing board you need one with the analog card option (IF-AN24), this was an expensive option when new so these MX machine will be slightly more expensive. Also try to get a machine with the 256meg ram option as originally they had 128meg, as they increased the on board software power the 128 was too small. All the operating system software and MX view software (for PC and Mac) is available on the Tascam site.
The MX is getting old now, and it uses scsi drives (there is a way to use sata with scsi to sata adaptors but thats another story) but the machine sounds very good and as long as it's been looked after you will get a 24 track recorder with basic editing for under $1000 and they usually come with drives and extra bits, there is one here right now if you are in the US.
Alan.
The MX is getting old now, and it uses scsi drives (there is a way to use sata with scsi to sata adaptors but thats another story) but the machine sounds very good and as long as it's been looked after you will get a 24 track recorder with basic editing for under $1000 and they usually come with drives and extra bits, there is one here right now if you are in the US.
Alan.
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William Craig
New member
Thanks for your reply on the Alesis HD 24 or the Tascam MX 2424 question where I do not want to use a computer. Got lots of stuff, studio monitors, stands mics cables and stuff. Sooo, if I go this route can you give me an idea of what board might be good maybe a used one as I don't have one right now?
witzendoz
Senior Member
Come to think of it, how much is your budget?
alan.
alan.
witzendoz
Senior Member
Actually if you don't have a board, you can buy a Tascam MX with the digital interface and a Tascam Digital board to go with it. That way you will get some processing and automation on the board but still not have to have a computer? You will need a MX with a TDIF card and something like a DM24 board with the TDIF card. Tascam sold this setup as a package and it worked well.
Alan.
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Murdersgalore
New member
Or just get a PC and an interface. I don't understand this shunning of computer based DAWs that we occasionally see here. I'm not saying it's the future, because I first have to say it's the PRESENT. 
grimtraveller
If only for a moment.....
If someone wants to buy a two stoey house in the South of the city, specifying that they don't want to live in a bungalow in the north of the city and they ask you how to go about it, why tell them to just live in a bungalow in the north of the city ?
I thought we lived in the democratic capitalistic free market West, for the most part, in which competition breeds choice. You don't have to understand why some people don't want to use computers to record. They have their reasons. And if they ask for help and you can help them, do so ! Otherwise.......
So are all the alternatives. Reel to reels, cassette based portastudios, standalone DAWs, VHS videos etc....There's more than one way to skin a cat. And until they die out they ever will be.I'm not saying it's the future, because I first have to say it's the PRESENT.
bouldersoundguy
Well-known member
Standalone hard disk recorders are essentially computers that only do one thing.
Sometimes the limitations of your tools can inspire creativity that wouldn't otherwise happen, but I still have to ask why you'd give up the flexibility of computer recording in favor of a standalone digital recorder.
Sometimes the limitations of your tools can inspire creativity that wouldn't otherwise happen, but I still have to ask why you'd give up the flexibility of computer recording in favor of a standalone digital recorder.
mjbphotos
Moderator
Guess we won't see William back.
Thought he got some good answers, but evidently a little touchy.
Armistice
Son of Yoda
Then pay for advice and don't go looking on free bbs services and whinge when people don't tell you what you want to hear.
witzendoz
Senior Member
I thought I asked sensible questions and recommended reasonable gear?
Oh Well,
Alan.
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Sometimes the limitations of your tools can inspire creativity that wouldn't otherwise happen, but I still have to ask why you'd give up the flexibility of computer recording in favour of a standalone digital recorder.
I can tell you why, I spend most of last night reloading operating systems, software, plugins, drivers, .nets's codecs, etc etc etc, after a stupid computer issue stopped the studio working, instead of producing, engineering, and creating. I fully understand why someone would want a recording set up that did not rely on a computer.
Oh Well,
Alan.
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Sometimes the limitations of your tools can inspire creativity that wouldn't otherwise happen, but I still have to ask why you'd give up the flexibility of computer recording in favour of a standalone digital recorder.
I can tell you why, I spend most of last night reloading operating systems, software, plugins, drivers, .nets's codecs, etc etc etc, after a stupid computer issue stopped the studio working, instead of producing, engineering, and creating. I fully understand why someone would want a recording set up that did not rely on a computer.
Armistice
Son of Yoda
You did ask reasonable questions...
And I'm yet to move to PC recording for the very reason you've just experienced... just a shame that they didn't take the development of standalones any further..
dastrick
huh???
From everything that I've read, the Alesis HD24 is absolutely rock solid and sounds great.
Sooooooo.................it makes perfect sense to me why people would prefer to use it rather than a computer and interface.
Sooooooo.................it makes perfect sense to me why people would prefer to use it rather than a computer and interface.
grimtraveller
If only for a moment.....
If you want blood, you've got it !http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/spank.g
There was only one reply that didn't address the OP's question ! He got nothing but good answers. But it obviously wasn't good enough !Guess we won't see William back.
Well, to me the standalone DAW is flexible. There's absolutely nothing that I find I can't do that I want to do. Which wasn't the case with my portastudio, where I wished I could edit, muck about and mix in sections. I never find myself wishing I had the extra flexibility of a computer. Actually, the standalone DAW is, in my view, the perfect bridge between the portastudio and the computer, incorporating the best of both worlds.
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Murdersgalore
New member
damn double post.
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Murdersgalore
New member
Did I troll a bit?
Of course I did......
....and it worked.
Three cheers for intuition.
Of course I did......
....and it worked.
Three cheers for intuition.
bouldersoundguy
Well-known member
I know, I have one.
Not necessarily. It's way more convenient than a computer for live recording but I wouldn't use it for studio work unless DAWs didn't exist.
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soundchaser59
Reluctant Commander
Better get used to it if you want to surf this forum. This place gets a ton of trolls, more than any other forum I've ever been in, and the regulars absolutely relish the chance to hit the "EASY NUKE 'EM" button on any troll that dare bare his arse in here.
And, I'm sorry to say, your original post contained everything that we use to determine troll and sound the attitude alarm. (not your fault, real trolls love to mock the newbs)
Besides, the commonly abiding wisdom is if that little bit of attitude scares you off then you either really are a troll or you simply cant take the pressure and you don't belong anyway. If you cant handle it here then you won't survive anywhere else either. If youa re looking for tender mercy and kid glvoes then you should try the praise and worship forums. (but no guarantees with them, either!)
Think of it like going to prison for the first time. You come in new, get some attitude, if you throw some attitude back and hold your ground and restate your question, then they start to figger you might be ok.
Yup, now that I've read all the posts, I don't see where the OP got too much "attitude" here. If the couple of pointed questions asked are all it takes to scare him off, then he is in for a surprise with all the other forums. I think wiping out the original post is a crappy way to make a point. Some people come in later with intention of giving helpful input, and we have no idea what was asked because the OP chose to wipe it rather than just add a post complaining about attitude. So all I can do is try to help him with his attitude toward attitudes.
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soundchaser59
Reluctant Commander
That just means your computer and audio hardware was not set up correctly to be dedicated to recording and nothing else. I set up my own machine specifically for studio and only studio, running fine for 3 years now (REAPER!) and I will never look back. Haven't lost any work yet. Wait til your stand alone needs a new hard drive and you find out you have to get one identical to what came in it. Good luck with that. Or if you are still running tape, wait til you have to get your heads and capstan motor replaced! Same price as a computer! It's just choices.....
The reason is in order to make the stand alone DAW (which has the same weak link as any computer - a hard drive) do everything a computer DAW will do, they realized they would have to make the stand alone machine into - you guessed it - into a computer! Why try to build and re-market something that is already being sold all over the planet?