Silent piano sound in recorded Wav file

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Hello, I have YAMAHA MOX6 synth and want to record my piano. I'm newbie here, need your advise.

Is it normal, that when I record Full Concert Grand Piano to CUBASE 5 (connected through USB cable, since MOX6 have built-in audio interface, which can excange audio/midi data in/out) to MIDI track, then export as Audio MixDown - I get a Wav file, where sound is simply silent.

How do high-end studios accomplish to record strong sound? Or this is simply volume knobs positioning? thanks

P.S. I tried to record my Yamaha Clavinova CLP-230 to cubase, but result is simply the same
 
vipantonio said:
I get a Wav file, where sound is simply silent.

How do high-end studios accomplish to record strong sound? Or this is simply volume knobs positioning? thanks

P.S. I tried to record my Yamaha Clavinova CLP-230 to cubase, but result is simply the same
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Mmmmm....not really sure what you are saying here...?

Do you mean that when you record the piano, there is no sound in the WAV file...just silence?
If that is the case...then you must not be setting up the track correctly for recording, or there's wrong connection somewhere between your piano and the DAW.
 
Yes, it's normal. If you record to a midi track, you only have midi data, which is, of course - not audio, and thus completely silent. You have to assign a synth/instrument for the midi to play back through. It sounds like you want to be recording the audio from your keyboard - so you'd need to set up the audio channels in the keyboard's built-in interface as inputs on audio channels in Cubase, and record them.
 
Thanks for the response, I think I explained incorrectly. By saying a word "silent" i ment not "mute", but a little bit slower sound that I would expect. I'm sorry for my English

Actually, everything records OK, the piano sound is in WAV file. But that sound is simply not so loud as I would expect it to be - when I play WAV file (through VLC let's say), I need to increase volume of my speakers in order to hear it normally. If I open some prefessional recorded piano mp3 file after I listened to my own recording - that file plays very loud, because my speakers volume is quite high...
 
Have you considered... turning up the volume on the piano track?
 
Yes, I tried that, but then, in some places, I hear some noise, don't know the term to describe it - like dizzing/over power os smth like that. Or could it be speakers problem? (I have creative 5.1 cheap version of speakers...)
 
Sounds like clipping. Also sounds like it's time for you to learn about compression, my friend :)
 
This is odd. You are recording to midi then exporting to wave ? Can you tell us what the range of velocity values ( between 0 and 127 ) are on the midi track ?
 
Read post 4. He explained it wrong in post 1, apparently. A language barrier and some confusion about the difference between MIDI and audio are at play here, but after the second explanation, I'm pretty sure his question is "why is my mix so much quieter than commercial music".
 
Yeah I read post 4 and decided that the error in communication was only regarding the presence of sound all together versus presence of low volume sound.

vipantonio said:
when I record Full Concert Grand Piano to CUBASE 5 ...to MIDI track, then export as Audio MixDown - I get a Wav file, where sound is simply silent.

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Thanks for the response, I think I explained incorrectly. By saying a word "silent" i ment not "mute", but a little bit slower sound that I would expect.
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No, I think they are recording the audio but at too low a level. Turn up the volume of the keyboard.
 
mjbphotos said:
No, I think they are recording the audio but at too low a level. Turn up the volume of the keyboard.
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This is what I thought, too. Then he explained he does that and gets a clipping sound, hence me suggesting to learn about compression.
 
Lets just wait until the lab results of the velocity values come back yeah ?

If he is triggering midi events while recording then the sound would not distort in the DA stage so the distortion heard is from the crappy speakers. Therefore the solution would be to replace the speakers and record the midi at full keyboard volume THEN convert to wave.
 
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CFox said:
... Can you tell us what the range of velocity values ( between 0 and 127 ) are on the midi track ?
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I guess it's 102. When I open Midi Editor double clicking the midi channel track, I see "Ins. vel." (Inserted notes velocity) 102.

Yes, I'm recording to MIDI track. Track's output is set to MOX6/MOX8 VST, which is my Yamaha Mox6 keyboard. AFAIK, cubase sends midi signals to MOX6 synth, which generates sound and returns back to cubase as audio.

Guys, thanks a lot for your responses.
 
There's a special 'DAW-volume control switch' on the MOX6. I don't know weather this might be the problem or not, but you can check it out.
 
vipantonio said:
I guess it's 102. When I open Midi Editor double clicking the midi channel track, I see "Ins. vel." (Inserted notes velocity) 102.

Yes, I'm recording to MIDI track. Track's output is set to MOX6/MOX8 VST, which is my Yamaha Mox6 keyboard. AFAIK, cubase sends midi signals to MOX6 synth, which generates sound and returns back to cubase as audio.

Guys, thanks a lot for your responses.
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Hey,sorry for delay tried to respond on hand held then lost subscription feed and forgot about it later on.

Just replace your crappy speakers and turn up the keyboard volume.

* Also try the suggestion in previous post :)
 
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