mixing price

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oh and luckily i havent payed him yet so thats why the last chorus is missing lol, which parts are pitchy? the verses?? cuz i wanted to redo them but the guy was like no no theyre not bad cuz when he put autotune, it honeslty sounded worst, but anyways, is the link above pitchy? this is alson another of my songs, but i just did the mix...
 
RobbieD said:
do you guys like this one Chaîne de RobbieeD65 - YouTube
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A bit heavy on the verb for my taste, but yes, I do. Think you should save you money and mix your own material. Pay for mastering. When using pitch correction correctly, you only work with the individual notes that are of issue. 'Put autotune' would infer that he just placed automatic tuning on the whole track. I have never heard this approach work well unless you want to hear the correction as an effect. I heard a few on the second track but the performance in general sounded better to me.

I would not say not to pay the guy, but I do not feel that he hasn't yet performed $500 worth of work on your song. I suggest you purchase Melodyne and continue fine tuning your own mixing skills. You seem to be getting very close on your own. :D
 
+1 for jimmy's advice.
Melodyne is a vocal pich and time correction tool.
I reckon a little of it would go a long way on your track, but if you don't hear the out of tune notes, it's not going to be easy to fix them subtly.

Do you hear it?
 
in tear me apart ya, in the the one of a million i think your might be like one spot
 
Maybe a better way to say it; His mix isn't worth $500 more than yours.
 
ok so help me out how do i make it better, what does it need where do i need improvement ?? is it my gear?
 
Well, as I said previously, there is way too much reverb for my taste. I am not in the studio now to give further detail. Seemed like you are on the right track and I suggested you could better invest in software and probably monitors/room treatment for your own studio as opposed to paying someone else to do a half assed job. This is however just a guess based on one song that you posted that my not be a direct representation of your skills. I could give a better opinion if I had more of your material to critique. Even then, it is just my opinion. Who the hell am I to say what is good to you. That is your decision. :)
 
RobbieD said:
ok so help me out how do i make it better, what does it need where do i need improvement ?? is it my gear?
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Since you asked...and I'm going to be honest, but keep in mind, I'm opinionated...and this is just MY opinion, so you can totally ignore it if you like. :)

A mix can only do so much with the tracks provided, there's a point where the best mixer won't be able to pull something stellar out of tracks if they ain't got it to begin with.
OK, now that's out of the way...

That's an awful mix, unless you were going for weird, EXCESSIVE reverb on the vocals, piano and everything else, and drums that sound weak and even distorted, and the balance between drums, backing tracks and vocals is way off...IMHO.
The "pitchiness" with the vocals in spots is almost insignificant compared to the other issues.
The mix is a huge, washed out cacophony of sounds...everything sounds cavernous and totally diffused, but also overpowering. The vocals are also too loud.

I'm really not trying to just slam it...but I couldn't listen to more than a third of it. I couldn't even focus on "the song" because the mix was just killing it.

That said...I listened to your other song - Chaîne de RobbieeD65 - and a couple of others on your channel, and I have to say, I'm hearing a lot of the same issues...weird/VERY excessive reverbs, weak drums that all start off with that same kick drum "THUMP", but then fall away behind a wall of reverb syrup.
So I gotta wonder...and ask...did you track WITH all that reverb or is that all being applied during th mix? It's on all your stuff...on all your tracks...just reverb soup.

I think a couple of your songs have potential, but the mixes are killing them, and I agree with the others, what that guy did for you isn't much better than what you are doing, but neither one is all that good...IMHO.

Lose a LOT of that reverb...back off on all those huge string pads/synths, dry up some tracks totally and blend with others that have a *judicious* amount of reverb, give the drums some crack/punch, and work on the vocals in spots for pitch correctness.
 
Well the only thing I put reverb on is the vox and the sounds from a keyboard but isn't dance music reverie??
 
Reverby you mean? Not really. Throw a mix with heavy reverb into a club environment and it will become a wash out. I do not personally have much experience with mixing that particular genre, but I will say that any music that is beat driven, needs to have the driving force out front. If that is washed in reverb and sounds distant, there wont be much left to dance to. Reverb is overused by many because it seems to make poorly tracked instruments sound good. In my experience, reverb is only needed to create a 'venue' for a performance so that it sounds more natural. This is more an ambient 'feeling' than something you want to actually hear. As a basic rule in my 'rock' genre, I bring up reverb until I can actually hear it in a mix. Then I pull it back. Reverb should not dictate a performance, but enhance its personality.
 
RobbieD said:
Well the only thing I put reverb on is the vox and the sounds from a keyboard but isn't dance music reverie??
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Maybe...but man...you sure put a lot of it on, and so did the guy who mixed your one song, or are you saying that reverb was *part of the vocal/keyboard tracks", in which case the other guy would have no way of removing or lessening the reverb.

Which is it?
 
Good point Miro.

I suggest that you post a mix of the first song with the added reverb completely removed and we can give more accurate opinions of the tracks. :)
 
weeeeelll i think ive found part of the solution lol my keyboard has these 5 knobs for all its sounds, attack, realease, cutoff resonance and reverb,, the reverb was cranked to full looool so now ill remake that song without the reverb cranked up on the keyboard and ill retry a better take for vocals without vocals and try a better mix, thanks for the honest opinions. another thing, this song has a lot of reverb but it sounds good no Adam Lambert - Whataya Want From Me [ the fonzerelli remix ] - YouTube
 
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