Clipping while palm muting?

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Can you take a screenshot of your DAW showing the wave so we can see the difference between strumming and palm muting?
 
I"m talking about in your Recording software , any recording software is going to have a recording level , in many it is set by default to 0db which is too hot .....

If you don"t have real recording software are are useing whatever software that came with your sound card then download an actual recording program .... Reaper is free for 30 days and audacity is free and both will give you better controll over your recording levels .....
 
I actually didnt know that. I assumed that the 0.0 db level was just the standard level to record at. Hmmm. Maybe I should turn everything down then, lol. I'd been turning the amp down to make it not redline, but I dont think it's gonna make much difference using a line out on a little solid state amp as far as a change in tone. Maybe if I was micing it, but I dunno. Now on my Blue Voodoo and Krankenstein cab, yeah I know it would make a difference playing at 3 or 6. But I'm reeeally not set up for that, lol.
 
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Track 6 is where the palm muting is going on obviously. Track 4 has some very light muting, but really its more of a scrape than that. The rest of it is strumming.
 
Yeah, You're right on the edge and some DAW's don't give you that edge and clip anyway. In Analog days, 0 was where you started, digital has no tolerance to overages so you get that nasty distortion. I'd record at -10 and stay within that range, no higher.
 
And one more thing, it's only doing this when I'm on the A string (which is actually a G string for me). Not on the lowest E (actually a C). Does that help in the slightest?
 
Umm, am I missing something?

Turn down the gain until it doesn't do that anymore.

/wipes hands on pants/
 
The gain is on about a 5, man. Much less and there wont be any distortion left on this thing. I'm already at that line this amp has drawn where its either some or none. I've never had this problem in any other studio, but we were mic'ing the amp too though in those instances. Even with my Blue Voodoo and Krank Cab turned better than halfway up I never had this problem.
 
However, just to humor everyone, I did it with the gain on 2, and it's STILL doing it. And it sounds just damn near like a clean channel now.
 
Minion said:
I"m talking about in your Recording software , any recording software is going to have a recording level , in many it is set by default to 0db which is too hot .....
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This- and/or, you haven't said yet if you have the mic/line input on the interface at minimum or not.
Bottom line- you need to lower the record level. If it's already all the way down and can't handle the line out on that amp- then the s/c may not be cutting it.
 
mixsit said:
This- and/or, you haven't said yet if you have the mic/line input on the interface at minimum or not.
Bottom line- you need to lower the record level. If it's already all the way down and can't handle the line out on that amp- then the s/c may not be cutting it.
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Thats what I'm afraid of. Cuz when I take the chord out of the recording out on my amp, this thing is barely audible at all. I literally cant turn it down much more without turning it off. And I dont think the recording level on Reaper is the problem, because I would still be getting those big spikes because thats what my amp is sending to it.

It looks like a mic is the only thing I can do to get a palm mute without that. Because when I took the plug out of the recording thing, even cranked up, I wasnt hearing a big volume difference in the palm muting through the amps speaker. But the line out is sure sending a big difference. May not even be the sound cards fault. But I guess we'll see eventually when/if I can get a mic and mixer in here to add to the "studio".
 
Guitarfreak585 said:
The gain is on about a 5, man. Much less and there wont be any distortion left on this thing. I'm already at that line this amp has drawn where its either some or none. I've never had this problem in any other studio, but we were mic'ing the amp too though in those instances. Even with my Blue Voodoo and Krank Cab turned better than halfway up I never had this problem.
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Well then the problem is your card, bro. You've got no overhead at all. I don't know why you think a mic and a mixer is going to help with that. You can get into a stereo interface for under $100.
 
Guitarfreak585 said:
Thats what I'm afraid of. Cuz when I take the chord out of the recording out on my amp, this thing is barely audible at all. I literally cant turn it down much more without turning it off. And I dont think the recording level on Reaper is the problem, because I would still be getting those big spikes because thats what my amp is sending to it..
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You keep talking about the amp. The recording input! It should be able to handle a little bit of 'line level set minimum or what's the point?
 
Supercreep said:
Well then the problem is your card, bro. You've got no overhead at all. I don't know why you think a mic and a mixer is going to help with that. You can get into a stereo interface for under $100.
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I thought maybe a mic would record them better. Someone earlier mentioned that they had better luck with a mic.

And i guess im just scared that an interface would do the same thing its doing now just because it seems to be the line out signal thats doing this. But i know little to nothing about this stuff and i dont really have the money for trial and error. I can do that trying different techniques and ill sit and play with settings and stuff if thats what it takes.
 
mixsit said:
You keep talking about the amp. The recording input! It should be able to handle a little bit of 'line level set minimum or what's the point?
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And im sorry but i dont guess I understand what youre saying. /:
 
Guitarfreak585 said:
I thought maybe a mic would record them better. Someone earlier mentioned that they had better luck with a mic.

And i guess im just scared that an interface would do the same thing its doing now just because it seems to be the line out signal thats doing this. But i know little to nothing about this stuff and i dont really have the money for trial and error. I can do that trying different techniques and ill sit and play with settings and stuff if thats what it takes.
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I sympathize with your fear of wasting money. For that reason, don't buy a mic or a mixer.

As nice as a Fata1ty soundcard is, it is not designed to record music. If you want to get different results, you're going to need to try something different. Get a two-channel usb interface. Your mixing will get done on the computer in whatever DAW software you choose. Reaper is free to try and cheap to buy.

Hang in there, OP. You're in the right place.
 
Supercreep said:
I sympathize with your fear of wasting money. For that reason, don't buy a mic or a mixer.

As nice as a Fata1ty soundcard is, it is not designed to record music. If you want to get different results, you're going to need to try something different. Get a two-channel usb interface. Your mixing will get done on the computer in whatever DAW software you choose. Reaper is free to try and cheap to buy.

Hang in there, OP. You're in the right place.
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Yeah Reaper is the program Im using now. I plan on buying it when my trial is up.

Any thoughts on a good interface then?
 
Guitarfreak585 said:
Yeah Reaper is the program Im using now. I plan on buying it when my trial is up.

Any thoughts on a good interface then?
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M-Audio makes good low budget stuff, and I hear good things about Line 6.

I don't have experience with either. Search for "interface" in the newbies section.
 
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