That's not a kick drum!

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I've found this debate really fascinating. The to-ing and fro~ing for me has contained many interesting points and as is often the case, I can see the merits on both sides and I can understand where the various protagonists are coming from.

I tire of the bored little rich kids living on mommy and daddy's trust fund and living the "Bohemian" lifestyle in Williamsburgh, Brooklyn or Downtown Manhattan(or any similar places in other cities) where they are given cute names like "Hipsters" or "Trustepharians". These people gravitate towards really bad and loud Punk Music (not saying Punk Music is bad) or very folksy type of really bad blues (I happen to love Blues) or "Drum Circle" type of self indulgent noise. They emit an air of being just too incredibly creative and artful, but they refuse to study any of the skills that people in the arts usually have a working knowledge of and they will dismiss trained musicians as "conservatory trained" while trying to bolster their own self-importance. Without any knowledge or skills with an instrument (like grinding away at three chords on an old acoustic guitar and making Richie Havens sound like Andre Segovia), these mouth breathers decide they're going to use something creative (like a suitcase as a kick drum). Sure it sounds like crap but they are given a pass because, "Look, they're using a suitcase as a kick drum, like WOW, man!" And look, they're "doing bass by blowing into a jug. COOL, anybody can be a musician!"
Please, spare me all of this self indulgent crap! We have perfected and masterly made instruments capable of wonderfully controlled ranges and good response. All of us have made certain items that we may use in our "back kit" for certain ambience sounds and effects, but that's it. We don't discard a perfectly functioning instrument just for the sake of using something inferior. That isn't about music! It's about misguided showmanship and an excuse for poor musicianship.
There was a fellow that appeared on late night variety shows that would perform Rossini's
"William Tell Overture" making fart noises with his hands. The crowd loved it. Is it because he was being musical or because he could play a recognizable melody making fart noises with his hands? It was a novelty act. It wasn't music.
 
Rimshot, I am curious as to where you might "draw the line." Where does each of the following fall?

A rich-kid neuvo-hippy playing a jug or a washboard bass is on the wrong side of said line, right? Or...

A poor ghetto kid, trying to hustle money for dinner by playing a plastic tub on that same "bad" side? His side-kick, blowing wild on a (MY GOD, THE HUMANITY!) PLASTIC harmonica?

A gigging wash-tub bassist, playing the open-mic circuit and/or busking in his city's subway stations?

High school kids in the 60's, forming Jug bands and having a ball?

The player of a cigar-box 3-string guitar, that he paid $250 for, made by an builder, from an honest-to-God cigar box? The homeless guy, who built and plays his OWN 3-string cigar-box guitar? The next homeless guy, who fished a warped and dented China nylon-string guitar out of a dumpster, put used steel strings on it, and plays some mean slide?

The upright automobile-gas-tank bass player?

On this forum, even as we speak, somebody is building his own SG. But, wait, maybe it's NOT a real guitar... is the completely-made-from-found-objects (most from a discarded copy machine) Tele build on another thread, here in this very forum, a real instrument, or a fake?

Hmmmm??
 
Rimshots talking about 30 years ago...he's caught in some time trap :D
 
Rimshots talking about 30 years ago...he's caught in some time trap :D

What he said is true though to this day. Especially the part about dumbass hipsters and squatters in the hip part of town. Every town has that scene, and the people in that scene are fucking dumbfucks. Austin, Tx anyone? :laughings:
 
stevie, you get offended a little too easily.

Aww, man, you got me ALL wrong. I am not offended, not at all. I see this all as a spirited discussion, some fun among friends over a few beers.

Here, Greg, let me buy you a cold one. :drunk:
 
What he said is true though to this day. Especially the part about dumbass hipsters and squatters in the hip part of town. Every town has that scene, and the people in that scene are fucking dumbfucks. Austin, Tx anyone? :laughings:

maybe in Austin TX but nowhere else...ive been everywhere daddio, and the cool cats downtown aint joining hipster beat combos anymore...


hang on..isnt your music from around 30 years ago?

I see a pattern :D
 
maybe in Austin TX but nowhere else...ive been everywhere daddio, and the cool cats downtown aint joining hipster beat combos anymore...


hang on..isnt your music from around 30 years ago?

I see a pattern :D
You really are old and out of it aren't you? The term "hipster" was revived a few years ago to describe a certain type in the "trendy" parts of town. Look up the term on Google and educate yourself. :p
They have even been mocked on you tube. Check it out here:

 
You really are old and out of it aren't you? The term "hipster" was revived a few years ago to describe a certain type in the "trendy" parts of town. Look up the term on Google and educate yourself. :p
They have even been mocked on you tube. Check it out here:


wow you really have brought me bang up to date...I truly didnt know...

















:D
 
That chink armor is pretty weak. You need you some good ol 'Merican steel armor.

it only rusts, yet everyone who uses it still thinks its the number one armour in the world...

chink armours a fraction of the price :p
 
oh and btw faggots...Im a hipster, and i live in the hipster part of San Diego!!
 
We're friends online, but I bet in real life I'd beat the fuck out of you. :D

:laughings::laughings::laughings:HA HA HA HA HA HA HA :laughings::laughings::laughings:

AND in this corner weighting in at...........

And the first rule of fight club is ....there is no fight club.








:cool:
 
We're friends online, but I bet in real life I'd beat the fuck out of you. :D

dude i dont generally hang out with dumbfucks but in your case id make the exception just to watch you flail about trying to whip my ass


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