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Greg_L
Banned
It has nothign to do with "buying"...it's more about trying.
Try it...you'll not only get what I'm saying, you will also find uses for it in mixing situations.
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I have tried it. It sucks.
I have tried it. It sucks.
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
Apologies if I started any arguments.
No arguments...just discussing different ways of doing things.
Some folks like to find one approach and then stick to it for every situation....
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
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Greg_L
Banned
You're not doing right then...it probably had no "pulse" (7008)!
You can't do it wrong. I'm no pro produca, but I have ears and can slide a track around in a DAW.
WhiteStrat
Don't stare at the eye.
No arguments...just discussing different ways of doing things.
Some folks like to find one approach and then stick to it for every situation....
Wrong again. Some folks have found what works vs. what doesn't. And they're smart enough to use it when called for. No one said anything about using "it for every situation."
Now go away and stop making this poor guy's thread a platform for another one of your endless arguments.
kthxbye.
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Greg_L
Banned
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
I never said "put two mics on the sound hole"...so I don’t know what “wrong” has to do with it other than you wanting to create that scenario...'cuz you put up a "sticky".
I'm sure you think you know everything about acoustic guitar recording as it should be…and because of that, you're now trying to pick an argument.
I was merely making the distinction that IT MATTERS WHERE YOU PUT THEM.
You are focusing on two specific positions ONLY.
DUH!
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There was NO *argument* until you joined in....look back through the thread....maybe you should go away.
WhiteStrat
Don't stare at the eye.
I see that you have met miroslav before.
No shit! What a headache. If his recordings were top notch, I'd shut up and hear him out. But I've heard them--so I just can't stomach all his pontificating.
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Greg_L
Banned
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
Nice try.
What's you're excuse...that sparse MIDI-synth instrumental stuff?
I hear that kind of stuff all over the Internet...like so much shopping mall muzak.
(I think I heard one of your tunes last time I had my teeth checked).
Do a full-tilt Pop/Rock CD production with vox, all tracked with mics...put it out...we'll talk some more.
There...you've insulted me...and now I've returned the favor...I hope you feel better.
(So now tell me who's trying to start arguments).
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TripleM
Well-known member
With all do respect, I've been honing my guitar playing over 18 years. I think I've put in "a bit of work." It's just a style thing I was trying to find a workaround for. Apologies if I started any arguments.
No offense taken. I'm just trying to figure out why your style can't be double tracked. I've heard some pretty intricate things double tracked before. I'm an average guitarist, and I can double track things pretty tight if I spend enough time at it to get it right.
noisewreck
New member
How long before this thread turns into a complete trainwreck? Or a BP spill?
grimtraveller
If only for a moment.....
With all do respect, I've been honing my guitar playing over 18 years. I think I've put in "a bit of work." It's just a style thing I was trying to find a workaround for. Apologies if I started any arguments.
Likewise, when I said I thought you could do it with one extra effort I wasn't trying to be funky, just trying to be encouraging. Mind you, I do think you can do it.....
just kidding ! Actually, no I'm not !
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Greg_L
Banned
I bet I can get it going in one, maybe two posts.
rayc
retroreprobate
Use the smallest time difference you can manage then adjust seasoning to taste.
OR
Use a VST stereo plug like the MDA one - free & OK for what it is.
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use a comb filter
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PLAY it again Sam
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Don't
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Use a VST stereo plug like the MDA one - free & OK for what it is.
OR
use a comb filter
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PLAY it again Sam
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Don't
noisewreck
New member
I think Miro is already doing a fine job all by himself
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
I think Miro is already doing a fine job all by himself
No...Miro wasn't doing anything "all by himself"...read the thread.
Miro was having a discussion about doubling/delaying track techniques and there was NO arguing until WhiteStrat kicked it off with a segue into two-mic setups for acoustics...
...which wasn't something Miro was even talking about."pulse" (7009)
(That's for you Greg...I know you secretly like that word).
For anyone interested...if I have time this weekend (or next), I will record/demonstrate several doubling approaches, as this seems to come up a lot on these forums, and it looks like many folks don't really have a clear understanding of all the possibilities and their sonic differences.
Maybe it will help end the silly debates about doubling and show that all the techniques have their place and can be useful in given situations.
Maybe we can even add it as a "sticky".
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Greg_L
Banned
That's where you're mistaken. Many people do know all about doubling and shifting. They don't do it though because it's generally stupid.
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
Then why do so many come asking about it if all the options are so well known…?
AFA it being "stupid"...it depends how it's done, how often it's done and when it's done.
If you get past the perspective that doubling is just about "trickery" and "faking" a *second* instrument/vocal take rather than playing it twice...and instead view the different options for track doubling/splitting as just production techniques to be used as desired and as the song calls for, then………….........
...well, maybe some people will never get past the one perspective.
That's why a side by side comparison might help some?
AFA it being "stupid"...it depends how it's done, how often it's done and when it's done.
If you get past the perspective that doubling is just about "trickery" and "faking" a *second* instrument/vocal take rather than playing it twice...and instead view the different options for track doubling/splitting as just production techniques to be used as desired and as the song calls for, then………….........
...well, maybe some people will never get past the one perspective.
That's why a side by side comparison might help some?
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Greg_L
Banned
Because they're recording n00bs. This is a Q&A website for the most part. All n00bs ask about doubling a mono track and what it does or how to make it sound awesome. They're mesmerized by the ease of doubling a track and shifting it, and then misinformation, laziness, and bad ears get the best of them. I tried it when I was a n00b. I still do sometimes, just to re-confirm that it's pretty much total garbage on everything but maybe sometimes vocals.
Then, you direct those n00bs to ANY pro recording, and bam, real double tracking all over it.
Lesson learned.