Piano vst help

[benherron.rrr]

Hey guys, sorry if this is the wrong place. I was wondering if anyone could recomend me a good piano vst I can purchase. Im using a half decent hammer action digital piano as my MIDI controller. I basically want a realistic piano that i can play in my recordings to make my work sound authentic. rather than program the notes in. i want to play the proformance. basically what is the best piano sound i can get without going and spendng an awful lot of money on a real grand piano?
thanks for your help!!

Ben

 

[grimtraveller]

This may be no good to you if it's only piano you want but the Miroslav Philharmonik by IK Multimedia has some really good pianos as well as an entire orchestra.

http://www.studica.com/products/pro...p_name=IK-Multimedia-Miroslav-Classik-Edition

 

[benherron.rrr]

Thanks, for what im needing i think ill need something a bit bigger.
plus ive got some of my student loan to shift

 

[kcearl]

Ive been impressed by True pianos....enough variety in them to cover just about every task and not heavy on RAM or CPU...

they have a freebie to try out thats very worth while...

http://www.truepianos.com/

Also Alicias Keys by NI sounds phenominal to me (if you can get over the concept) she seems to think so too...her last album only featured the Kontakt library as far as Im aware

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/powered-by-kontakt/alicias-keys/

but you are limited to the one piano with this

 

[benherron.rrr]

Yeah I've heard good things about alacias keys, its fairly cheap aswell. but theres always that part of me that wonders if its right for a instrument to be that heavily endorsed by an artist. same as i wouldnt go out and buy an artist signature guitar.

 

[kcearl]

Yeah I've heard good things about alacias keys, its fairly cheap aswell. but theres always that part of me that wonders if its right for a instrument to be that heavily endorsed by an artist. same as i wouldnt go out and buy an artist signature guitar.

Thats why I added "if you can get over the concept"


wouldnt bother me at all...it could be endorsed by the Bay City Rollers if it sounded good and what i was looking for Id let me ears and wallet do the thinking...no one knows or really gives a shit what instruments making great sounds in your track

I would have got it but my JV expansion worked out around the same price for a whole load more...i bought abbey road drums recently and they are excellent too...some great stuff coming out of NI recently

 

[benherron.rrr]

Yeah looking round I wish i could have it all!! if only. . . . ive had a demo of guitar rig 4 just having the samplers and sequencers makes it worth the money.

From what ive just read im fairly conviced.. saying she used it on her new album and uses it live alone makes it seem legit. all in all one great piano is better than 5 mediocore ones.

 

[ssscientist]

The Modartt line is worth checking out - http://www.pianoteq.com/.

Instead of big samples they model acoustic and electric and other pianos --- and I've read everything from raves to 'ehhhh...' about them.

They have demo versions available.

 

[grimtraveller]

Yeah I've heard good things about alacias keys, its fairly cheap aswell. but theres always that part of me that wonders if its right for a instrument to be that heavily endorsed by an artist. same as i wouldnt go out and buy an artist signature guitar.

But in a way, isn't that what we do ? Ok, we don't get money, but if we like a product, we recommend it. We talk it up. We 'endorse' it. Some even blast and blaze if anyone says anything against it. I wouldn't buy the signature guitar because it's endorsed but I'd have no problem owning it. I remember when I was looking into the Lounge Lizard electric piano and the geezer in the shop told me that Herbie Hancock used it extensively, to the extent that he didn't take physical keyboards on tour anymore. I thought, 'well, it can't be a shitty little thing then'. Same with my M-TRON mellotron VSTi, I read glowing praise from Rick Wakeman (who interestingly was the first mellotronist I heard, I think). And I'd've bought Mike Pinder's mellotron samples if they weren't so expensive (for me).

Thats why I added "if you can get over the concept"


wouldnt bother me at all...it could be endorsed by the Bay City Rollers if it sounded good and what i was looking for Id let me ears and wallet do the thinking...

I agree. If I was looking for an X and Ab CD endorsed it and it was within my price range (ie, cheap ! ) I'd go for it. I've done that with Miroslav Vitous and his orchestral package and a groovy little double bass sample by Danny Thompson. It's not so much the artist as much as it is the fact that that artist plays that instrument and therefore should have some idea if it sounds OK. Unless they're Beethoven and gone deaf.

 

[kcearl]

Yeah looking round I wish i could have it all!! if only. . . . ive had a demo of guitar rig 4 just having the samplers and sequencers makes it worth the money.

From what ive just read im fairly conviced.. saying she used it on her new album and uses it live alone makes it seem legit. all in all one great piano is better than 5 mediocore ones.

very true......i went with a load of mediocre ones


before splurging out on GR4 (not that you are saying you are) Id give Amplitude 3 a demo....id say its the most realistic one out there at the moment...for rock Overlouds TH-1 is hard to beat...and can be found quite a bit cheaper now

 

[kcearl]

But in a way, isn't that what we do ? Ok, we don't get money, but if we like a product, we recommend it. We talk it up. We 'endorse' it. Some even blast and blaze if anyone says anything against it. I wouldn't buy the signature guitar because it's endorsed but I'd have no problem owning it. I remember when I was looking into the Lounge Lizard electric piano and the geezer in the shop told me that Herbie Hancock used it extensively, to the extent that he didn't take physical keyboards on tour anymore. I thought, 'well, it can't be a shitty little thing then'. Same with my M-TRON mellotron VSTi, I read glowing praise from Rick Wakeman (who interestingly was the first mellotronist I heard, I think). And I'd've bought Mike Pinder's mellotron samples if they weren't so expensive (for me).


I agree. If I was looking for an X and Ab CD endorsed it and it was within my price range (ie, cheap ! ) I'd go for it. I've done that with Miroslav Vitous and his orchestral package and a groovy little double bass sample by Danny Thompson. It's not so much the artist as much as it is the fact that that artist plays that instrument and therefore should have some idea if it sounds OK. Unless they're Beethoven and gone deaf.

all very true...though in retrospect Id actually never buy anything endorsed by the bay city rollers...dunno what came over me

 

[grimtraveller]

My younger sister and her gang (I used to call them the Aggro-birds) were serious Roller maniacs circa '75-'76. I pretended to hate them, as big brothers did, but because she played "Once upon a star" and "Wouldn't you like it" virtually every day for too, too long, I grew to love those two albums. Still do, in fact. Hugely underrated band with a hugely dodgy history ! Ironically, the first albums I ever bought for myself (on cassette !) were a compilation (Supersonic, from that TV show, oh the shame....) and "Rollin'" by them, up at Tally ho Corner. I wear a disguise when I admit that, though.

 

[kcearl]

My younger sister and her gang (I used to call them the Aggro-birds) were serious Roller maniacs circa '75-'76. I pretended to hate them, as big brothers did, but because she played "Once upon a star" and "Wouldn't you like it" virtually every day for too, too long, I grew to love those two albums. Still do, in fact. Hugely underrated band with a hugely dodgy history ! Ironically, the first albums I ever bought for myself (on cassette !) were a compilation (Supersonic, from that TV show, oh the shame....) and "Rollin'" by them, up at Tally ho Corner. I wear a disguise when I admit that, though.

We used to buy hash from Tam Paton their manager....his place was always full of rent boys...I think he was jailed for some sex crime and for dealing cannabis


Im sure a few of the Rollers knew him well

 

[benherron.rrr]

very true......i went with a load of mediocre ones


before splurging out on GR4 (not that you are saying you are) Id give Amplitude 3 a demo....id say its the most realistic one out there at the moment...for rock Overlouds TH-1 is hard to beat...and can be found quite a bit cheaper now

generally i dont really use amp modelers, back when i started out i did just as an easy way to get a good tone. but now im much more into recording the amp. I suppose lately ive become board of normal guitar tones and want to start creating somthing a little more wild. with out the cost of buying loads more pedals and such. Ive got pod farm which came with my UX2 which i think is good. but GR4 has the effects im looking for.

I need a piano that will work for classical music as well as somthing that will fit in with a good rock song and all the things inbetween. for reference NI had akoustik piano which is now the piano collection, are these the same pianos or completely new pianos?

Kcearl, what did you go for?

 

[kcearl]

generally i dont really use amp modelers, back when i started out i did just as an easy way to get a good tone. but now im much more into recording the amp. I suppose lately ive become board of normal guitar tones and want to start creating somthing a little more wild. with out the cost of buying loads more pedals and such. Ive got pod farm which came with my UX2 which i think is good. but GR4 has the effects im looking for.

I need a piano that will work for classical music as well as somthing that will fit in with a good rock song and all the things inbetween. for reference NI had akoustik piano which is now the piano collection, are these the same pianos or completely new pianos?

Kcearl, what did you go for?

I ended up buying an expansion card for my JV 1080, just a little more $ than a kontakt set but with far more sounds....on their own they are still a little Roland(ish) but in a mix you'd never tell...there's still life in the old beast yet

I have pod farm but I only use the vocal pre amps...cant say I like the guitar stuff..

if you are looking at sound manipulation i dont think you can go wrong with GR4...I have an older version that i use on keys and synths...never on guitar

 

[benherron.rrr]

Yeah, Ive been trying to make a nice guitar arpegiator.
Just went out today and bought Alicias Keys, In the 10 mins ive been using it, im very satisfied, truned out to be just what i was looking for

 

[grimtraveller]

H O O R A Y, H O O R A Y, WE'VE DONE IT !

A happy ending.

 

[benherron.rrr]

YAY!!!! I think its time for a party!!!!

 

[kcearl]

cool...I thought it sounded very useable on the demos for it...look forward to hearing your first tune with it in the mp3 clinic