"Flying" Vocals

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I recently just happened to read a little about a guy called Tom Lord-Alge; a very successful producer/engineer. I read about him at Wikipedia and it said that he was one of the founders of the ""Flying" vocals" tecnique.
Since he mixes the music for almost all of my favourite bands I became interested, but I can't find out what it is :confused:

Does anybody know what ""Flying" vocals" means and how to achieve it?

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Copy and paste. Like one chorus to the next, if they played with a metronome and they are both the same.
 
...Does anybody know what ""Flying" vocals" means and how to achieve it?

It refers to taking shortcuts so the singer doesn't have to sing the whole song. For example, once he nails down a good chorus, you just copy and paste it (or fly it in) to the rest of the choruses in the song. Some folks dislike it because it makes every chorus sound identical.

It's not exactly a ground breaking invention, but a time saver none-the-less.
 
"Flying in vocals" became very popular when sampler's were first used and usually refers to the double or quadruple tracking of each part of the backing vocals (root 4x, harm 1 4x , harm 2 4x, gang 4x etc) so you end up with very layered / thick backing vocal part. Once this is done with one chorus you sample it and "fly it in" to all the chorus's and then sing the lead over it. It was widely done in the digital domain with r & b and rock in the late 80's.

The effect was also done in the analog domain with tape previous to this but was a little trickier and was not as widely popular.

Now it's copy paste.
 
Looks like it means all sorts of things. Does anyone know what Tom Lord-Alge found it to be?
 
Looks like it means all sorts of things. Does anyone know what Tom Lord-Alge found it to be?
I haven't been able (yet) to find any first-person description of "flying vocals" from Alge himself, if that's what your looking for.

The description in the very Wikiwacky article that Svedde first cited at the top of this post put it this way:
Lord-Alge helped pioneer a method of digital tape editing known as "flying" vocals (e.g., using a piece of the chorus to accent a different part of the song, etc.).
Now, we all know that when it comes to this kind of drill-down detail, that one has to be careful of taking Wikiwacky at full face value, but what I find interesting is the author's combination of a specific meaning (somewhat different than what's described anywhere here yet), combined with the use of the term "etc."

I think today's general "definition" of flying vocals has been pretty much genericized to mean almost any repeated use of a vocal sample within a song. Whether it was originally specifically referring to the layering of vocals as Tom describes or something like the Wiki description, or something else, I don't know.

But I tend to look at it like this (rightly or wrongly); that Alge didn't limit himself to one particular application of flying in vocals. in fact, - as Tom also rightly mentions - it's surely not a technique that Alge "invented'; It's something that I'm sure has been done by countless others at one time or another since the beginning of magnetic recording.

Rather, where Alge's name becomes attached to it is in the idea of common or liberal use of it overall (once the ease of digital editing came around) as a distinctive mixing "style"...or maybe not style so much as a signature technique.

It's like crediting George Martin with the use of tape splicing or Phil "Psycho Killer" Spector with the layering of instruments. Neither one of them invented the basic technique behind the sound they became famous for, nor did they limit themselves to applying it in one specific manner, necessarily. But they became famous for their respective techniques because of their liberal application of it as a signature technique yielding a signature sound.

Just a viewpoint here; not solid revisionist history. If someone knows more or better, I'll take it! ;).

G.
 
okey! I think I've understood what it's essentially about ;) Thanks guys!

/Svedde
 
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