Problem with automation

[BeniRose]

I'd like to start getting into doing more automation, like riding the fader on vocals and what not, but I tend not to use it because it makes it much more difficult to change the overall volume of the track if I find it to be sitting improperly in the mix. Also, before mastering, I like to make a few different mixes with different vocal levels, since they translate differently during the mastering process. Is there an easy way to raise or lower the entire automation data for the volume envelope? I'm running Logic Pro. Is there a plug to do this (for example, putting the Gain plugin at the end of my chain?) Thanks in advance!

 

[DAS19]

Gain plugin may work.

The only way I can think of would be to raise and lower the gain of the actual wav file. There might be another way but this way will work.

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Is there an easy way to raise or lower the entire automation data for the volume envelope? I'm running Logic Pro. Is there a plug to do this (for example, putting the Gain plugin at the end of my chain?) Thanks in advance!

I don't use Logic Pro, some of the terminology may be different than what I'm used to, but the way I usually set things up is in order something like this:

1. Engage the level automation control and set it as a flatline at about 80% full volume.

2. Set the channel trim/channel volume (the volume setting for channel itself) to an appropriate rough mix level - i.e. so that the level of the track with automation set at 80% is roughly correct for the mix.

This kind of copies a fader set at unity gain, with a few dBs available above that 80% level, and a lot of fade room below it.

If you need to bring the whole track up or down without changing the relative automation envelope, you can just change the overall channel trim/gain volume at the head of that channel.

G.

 

[xstatic]

A few quick ways I can think of....

1 - Route the track through a bus so that the buss can be used for manual ( and more global) changes.

2 - Try highlighting the whole automation section of that track and applying gain through a software command ( either positive or negative gain )

3 - see if your channel has a trim option, although I would be a little hesitant about this one.

4 - Apply gain to the waveform itself, I would also be hesitant about this option in some cases, much of that depends on your tracking levels.

5 - Insert a plugin at the end of your channel in question's chain that has an output volume so that it may be used, but be careful with gain structure so as not to clip a plugin with a hot input and an attenuated output.