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Someone (a novice) at work wants to trade me their beat up old american strat for my shiny Jackson JTX standard. The strat is HOT PINK! I have been thinking about it. He really wants the Jackson. I told him he could sell the strat and buy my jackson, that the strat is worth more but he still wants to make the trade.
I don't like strats very much but am thinking of making the trade and selling the strat.
 
Would/could you estimate how much it's worth? What's the Jackson like?
 
I'd do it in a heartbeat. If you don't like it, you can sell the Strat, buy a new Jackson, and pocket the difference. If it's a *really* older American Strat, and you don't like it, you can sell the Strat, buy a new Jackson *and* a good used car, take a trip to Bermuda, and *then* pocket the difference. It's all about the Strat- when it was made, and whether the damage is cosmetic or functional. Forget the color, and give up the idea that guitars are a fashion show. They're commodities-Richie
 
Richard Monroe said:
I'd do it in a heartbeat. If you don't like it, you can sell the Strat, buy a new Jackson, and pocket the difference. If it's a *really* older American Strat, and you don't like it, you can sell the Strat, buy a new Jackson *and* a good used car, take a trip to Bermuda, and *then* pocket the difference. It's all about the Strat- when it was made, and whether the damage is cosmetic or functional. Forget the color, and give up the idea that guitars are a fashion show. They're commodities-Richie
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I have been playing guitars for over forty years, you trying to tell me how to evaluate a guitar?

the damage is cosmetic. How old is it, I don't know. I don't keep up on Fender guitars, can you tell from the serial number?

I don't give a shit about a guitars color, condition, etc, only if I like it or not, and I am not a strat lover.
 
Yo Dragonworks- Hey, it's me-Richie. No I'm not telling you how to evaluate a guitar. You just seemed concerned that it was pink. That is an issue, though. It's not likely to be very old if pink is the original color. Yeah, someone can tell from the serial #, but not me. I bet Fender's website will be helpful. All that really matters is whether it's a Highway One Strat, which will say "Made in USA", but is not worth as much as an American standard. Of course, it also depends on the Jackson, the best of which seem to top out at about $2000 new. A Highway One is about $600 new, and an American Standard $1000 or so. So- it *could* be your Jackson is worth more, even if the Strat weren't dinged up. Before you do anything, get the year and model of the Strat. I used to dislike Strats also, until I got one and set it up the way I wanted. It has become one of my favorite axes. Who woulda thunk?-Richie
 
Richard Monroe said:
Yo Dragonworks- Hey, it's me-Richie. No I'm not telling you how to evaluate a guitar. You just seemed concerned that it was pink. That is an issue, though. It's not likely to be very old if pink is the original color. Yeah, someone can tell from the serial #, but not me. I bet Fender's website will be helpful. All that really matters is whether it's a Highway One Strat, which will say "Made in USA", but is not worth as much as an American standard. Of course, it also depends on the Jackson, the best of which seem to top out at about $2000 new. A Highway One is about $600 new, and an American Standard $1000 or so. So- it *could* be your Jackson is worth more, even if the Strat weren't dinged up. Before you do anything, get the year and model of the Strat. I used to dislike Strats also, until I got one and set it up the way I wanted. It has become one of my favorite axes. Who woulda thunk?-Richie
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The guy at work really likes the Jackson. I don't really care cause I have 8 guitars. If I think the Jackson will help him along in his endeavor to be a guitar player I will make the trade weather it is worth more or not. I don't really give a damn about the resale value of the guitar, I don't need the money nor the prestige of being a vintage strat owner.
 
dragonworks said:
The guy at work really likes the Jackson. I don't really care cause I have 8 guitars. If I think the Jackson will help him along in his endeavor to be a guitar player I will make the trade weather it is worth more or not. I don't really give a damn about the resale value of the guitar, I don't need the money nor the prestige of being a vintage strat owner.
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OK, well that's different. I guess I didn't really understand the question, and if I had, I'm not sure what anybody on this board thinks matters one bit. You weren't asking "is this a good deal?" You were asking, "is this the *right thing* to do?" It sounds like it is, or you wouldn't be asking the question. I've been playing guitar as long as you have, and own about as many. The difference is- I have no emotional attachement to any of them. They're just tools to me, like a carpenter's hammer. And I'd trade any one of them for a better hammer. Don't get me wrong. I'm not busting your balls for seeing it the way you do. My viewpoint isn't any better than yours, just different. To me, they're just pieces of wood with necks, and frets, some better than others, and some better for certain jobs than others.

So if you want validation, here it is. Maybe the guy will become a guitar god with that Jackson, Maybe some old blues guy(?girl) would love to own a banged-up hot pink American strat. Let the guy have the guitar, sell the strat to someone who will love it, and put the money toward some axe you always wanted that isn't in your collection. What the hell? You only live once.-Richie
 
dragonworks said:
Someone (a novice) at work wants to trade me their beat up old american strat for my shiny Jackson JTX standard. The strat is HOT PINK! I have been thinking about it. He really wants the Jackson. I told him he could sell the strat and buy my jackson, that the strat is worth more but he still wants to make the trade.
I don't like strats very much but am thinking of making the trade and selling the strat.
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Yep, I think you should do it.
 
Since the Strat is beat up I guess trading guitars for a while isn't an option as the Jackson may return to you damaged.

You said you really don't care for Strats. You didn't really say how you felt about your Jackson. You also state that the monetary value angle isn't important to you. You ARE interested in helping the guy improve as a musician. I'm natured much the same way.

I'm not clear on how you feel about parting with the Jackson as a separate idea except that you are willing to consider it. You have to figure that out first, without the Strat in the equation.

You could post the Strat here and see if there are any takers just to help him move off the square he's on. You guys could work out something on the Jackson separately.

I guess if it were me I'd be hesitant to add a dust collector to my arsenal.
 
I never play the Jackson anymore, well very rarely, so rarely in fact that I have to rewire it. I was going to switch out the humbucker but changed my mind.
Anyways I have the strat home with me now. It is not exactly hot pink, I don't know what the name of the color is, I will have to ask the wife, she is the artist.
Anyways the serial number is L29246 and from the research I have done that serial number is from 1965. Nowheres on it does it say where it was made, not in the USA, not in Mexico, Not in Japan.
 
did they have five way switches in them at that time. I took the pickguard off and it is a five way switch. I don't remember. I did have a 59 strat in 65 but I can't remember back that far. I am not sure the electronics in it are original, there is no date on anything.
 
dragonworks said:
did they have five way switches in them at that time. I took the pickguard off and it is a five way switch. I don't remember. I did have a 59 strat in 65 but I can't remember back that far. I am not sure the electronics in it are original, there is no date on anything.
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I'll trade ya a nice white strat for that old pink strat:rolleyes:..what say you?:):p
 
dragonworks said:
I never play the Jackson anymore, well very rarely, so rarely in fact that I have to rewire it. I was going to switch out the humbucker but changed my mind.
Anyways I have the strat home with me now. It is not exactly hot pink, I don't know what the name of the color is, I will have to ask the wife, she is the artist.
Anyways the serial number is L29246 and from the research I have done that serial number is from 1965. Nowheres on it does it say where it was made, not in the USA, not in Mexico, Not in Japan.
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You won't find a "made in..." sticker/label/stamp. The Japanese models only started manufacture around 1982.

The Five way selector was introduced around 1977.

The colour will have faded considerably since it was first applied. Many of the so called vintage colours are nothing like the original. You may be able to get a glimpse of the old colour under the pickgaurd. It depends on whether that particular colour has faded due to light or chemical changes.
 
I took the pick guard off, there is no paint in the nail holes and the headstock is the same color with the logo over it.

"Try and identify the original color. Does the color make sense for the period? For example, Shell pink would be very unlikely (but not impossible) on a 1965 Fender."



Shell Pink

Lacquer Source(s): DuPont 2371L.
Low VOC Source(s): DuPont 2371K.
Probably the rarest Fender custom color. Originally used only on 1956 DeSotos, this color was replaced by Candy Apple Red on the Fender custom color chart in 1963. Before the original Shell Pink again became available from DuPont, I went through all the paint catalogs from the 1950's and choose the 1958 Buick color "Reef Coral" as the closest lacquer replacement. Interestingly, this 1958 lacquer replacement color is also known today as "Mary Kay Pink", DuPont #2864L and Ppg #DDL70748.
 
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this is even a question?

tell you what--you trade him your Jackson, and i'll trade you this Charvette i've got plus $200 for that pink strat and we'll call it a day. deal? :p

seriously, i don't understand what the hesitation is here--that's a vintage strat in a rare color and will fetch good money on the secondary market, even with a 5-way switch instead of the original 3-way. hell, even if it's got replacement pickups, you've still got some $$$ there.

like richie said--sell it, buy another jackson to replace the one you traded and take the wife on a nice vacation.


cheers,
wade
 
I wonder how to differentiate between an custom added 5-five way or a '64 neck on a later body?
 
TelePaul said:
I wonder how to differentiate between an custom added 5-five way or a '64 neck on a later body?
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one way is to take off the pickguard cover and see if there are nail holes and if so if they have paint in them. Does the color of the body match the headstock with the original headstock with the logo under it etc.
google stratocaster serial numbers then check out the sites, good ways to check for that.
 
Only 2 things can make this guitar worth more than any Jackson.
1. if the Strat was made before 1965
2. if the strat is a Custom Shop

also yes you can tell the age of a strat by the serial #

Rock On
 
After two guitar gurus and I took it apart I think the only thing that may be real on that strat is the neckplate. I am not even sure if is a fender.
 
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