Audio samples included: mic snare top and bottom

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I've always tried micing the bottom, I never get it to mix well with the top snare mic. So I recorded both and the same realative level, flipped the phase, and uploaded them on soundclick for you guys to decide if it would even be possible for me to mix these together to get a desirable sound.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=644522

They are both 57's.

Are these typically what your raw snare tracks sound like?
 
They sound somewhat typical but the snare could probably be tuned better. The key to a great snare sound is all about the room. The close mics can help the snare cut through the mix and give it body but a huge snare sound is going to come from the overheads and room mics in a nice reverberant room. I prefer a room with 2-3 seconds of reverb for a monster drum sound.
 
TexRoadkill said:
They sound somewhat typical but the snare could probably be tuned better. The key to a great snare sound is all about the room. The close mics can help the snare cut through the mix and give it body but a huge snare sound is going to come from the overheads and room mics in a nice reverberant room. I prefer a room with 2-3 seconds of reverb for a monster drum sound.
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Yeah, i know thats a problem here. I'm just in a typical room, seems as if this room was made to purposley have shitty acoustics. My room is something that will hold back my recordings for a long time till I can move out and maybe treat a room or something. I also agree with the tuning. I just have everything cranked right now and it was ringing like crazy so I slapped some moon gel on the top and bottom head. The top mic sounds very boxy.

Thank you for the contribution.
 
Nick, I'm at home right now, and here I only have Cool Edit and no decent speakers or headphones; nevertheless, I managed to get a nice mix out of them.
I'm going to try and mix them using Audition and my monitor headphones tomorrow and send you the mixed track.

I have to say, that even with that tuning, the snare doesn't sound bad at all (maybe it's just my preference;)).

Besides reversing the phase, do you gate those mics when tracking?

You got a very clean track (not much bleeding from the other components of the kit). I'm having problems with that now.

I used to record my kit (using 10 mics and a Peavey PV14 board) into a stereo track, using a Tascam 8 track portastudio DP-01. Now, I just got a 24 track 2488MKII, and am recording into 8 tracks, but I'm getting tons of bleeding into the snare and tom mics. Any suggestion would be much appreciated.

As for your snare, I'll tell you tomorrow:)

Cheers!
 
Nico2112 said:
Nick, I'm at home right now, and here I only have Cool Edit and no decent speakers or headphones; nevertheless, I managed to get a nice mix out of them.
I'm going to try and mix them using Audition and my monitor headphones tomorrow and send you the mixed track.

I have to say, that even with that tuning, the snare doesn't sound bad at all (maybe it's just my preference;)).

Besides reversing the phase, do you gate those mics when tracking?

You got a very clean track (not much bleeding from the other components of the kit). I'm having problems with that now.

I used to record my kit (using 10 mics and a Peavey PV14 board) into a stereo track, using a Tascam 8 track portastudio DP-01. Now, I just got a 24 track 2488MKII, and am recording into 8 tracks, but I'm getting tons of bleeding into the snare and tom mics. Any suggestion would be much appreciated.

As for your snare, I'll tell you tomorrow:)

Cheers!
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Hey thanks for all the comments! I'd love to hear what kinda mix you got with the tracks.
About bleeding, I also get alot of messy stuff in the tom mics. However, with the snare I have the mic almost exactly parrallel with the top head of the snare hanging over the rim about an inch, and then maybe an inch off the rim. Then for the bottom it's at more of a 45 degree angle with the bottom head, about two inches off the bottom head.

Hope this helped some, and thanks for the reply, can't wait to hear what you got.
 
Why do you have to wait to move out before you treat your room? :confused: Room treatment in most cases isn't permanent.
 
danny.guitar said:
Why do you have to wait to move out before you treat your room? :confused: Room treatment in most cases isn't permanent.
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Yeah, I think I just come up with excuses because, I am close to cluless in the "treatment field". I don't even know what a studio SHOULD sound like. I think going into an actual studio would be a great experience for me. If you have any other tips on how I could learn more. I will post a picture of my room so you can see what kind of garbage I'm working with right now.
 
Thanks, glad you liked it:)

First I lightly compressed them, 3:1 ratio, treshold: -9
Then I limited them to -9 dB

Top snare track:
EQ: 10 dB boost at 7000 hz, -5 dB cut at 400 hz
Track level: 6

Bottom snare track:
EQ: 5 dB boost at 7000 hz
Track level: 2

Master level: 0 dB

I would have loved applying some Reverb to the top track, but I normally do it when in context with the rest of the kit;)

Maybe you should try and use another moongel pad on the top head, so it could sound drier. I love dry snares:D

Cheers!
 
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