Drum Mics: How is this for a start?

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Why not go with the Naiant MSH-1s for your hat & ride? Your overheads are going to pick up tons of cymbal anyway, so the high-end rolloff probably won't be an issue - it might even be an asset.

Of course, there's also the voice in my head that says if you can't do it with a 57 then you aren't really trying... :D
 
Okay, this might be it. Let me know what you guys think.

Kick In - AKG D112
Kick Out - Shure SM7b
Snare Top - Audix i5
Snare Btm - Shure SM57
Tom 8" - Audix D2
Tom 10" - Audix D2
Tom 14" - Audix D4
Tom 16" - Audix D4
Overhead R - Rode NT5
Overhead L - Rode NT5
Room - Rode NTK
Hi-Hats - Audio Technica AT4033
Ride - MXL V67G

That still leaves me with 2 of the Naiant MSH-1's and a Shure SM57 to spare.
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
Okay, this might be it. Let me know what you guys think.

Kick In - AKG D112
Kick Out - Shure SM7b
Snare Top - Audix i5
Snare Btm - Shure SM57
Tom 8" - Audix D2
Tom 10" - Audix D2
Tom 14" - Audix D4
Tom 16" - Audix D4
Overhead R - Rode NT5
Overhead L - Rode NT5
Room - Rode NTK
Hi-Hats - Audio Technica AT4033
Ride - MXL V67G

That still leaves me with 2 of the Naiant MSH-1's and a Shure SM57 to spare.
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Honestly, I think the double mic on the kick is not neccessary... just try one or the other and see which you like best... you also might find that one sounds good on some tracks, and the other better on other tracks, even with the same drumset. I would also not use a mic on the ride, unless it just isn't coming through on the mix. The overheads should pic it up ok as long as your placement/position is correct. For the snare top and bottom you might have to mess with the I5 and 57 a bit... figuring out how it sounds best... which on top and which on bottom, and also phase reverse. The NTK should definitely be way up in the corner of the room to pick up the ambience.
 
89gtsleeper said:
Honestly, I think the double mic on the kick is not neccessary... just try one or the other and see which you like best... you also might find that one sounds good on some tracks, and the other better on other tracks, even with the same drumset. I would also not use a mic on the ride, unless it just isn't coming through on the mix. The overheads should pic it up ok as long as your placement/position is correct. For the snare top and bottom you might have to mess with the I5 and 57 a bit... figuring out how it sounds best... which on top and which on bottom, and also phase reverse. The NTK should definitely be way up in the corner of the room to pick up the ambience.
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Well, I'm leaving my options open on the kick thing. Numerous suggestions here and other forums say that I should put something outside the kick and the SM7 is kind of the best option I have. As for the mic on the ride, I explained that several times in previous posts.
 
Myriad, that sounds good and should give you plenty of options, the only thing i would add is another 57 on the snare top, placed very close to the head purely as a trigger if you have the option.

I usually find I need to back the snare mic off a good bit to get a great sound out of it and then if you are using that track to trigger hits also, tom and kick bleed may begin to set off the snare trigger. This is only really a problem if you have a lot of dynamic snare work I suppose though.
 
elementary said:
Myriad, that sounds good and should give you plenty of options, the only thing i would add is another 57 on the snare top, placed very close to the head purely as a trigger if you have the option.

I usually find I need to back the snare mic off a good bit to get a great sound out of it and then if you are using that track to trigger hits also, tom and kick bleed may begin to set off the snare trigger. This is only really a problem if you have a lot of dynamic snare work I suppose though.
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Thanks. I'll throw that extra 57 I have on it really close. Hopefully the retard doesn't smack it with a stick. :D
 
Good luck if you ever try to mix all those mics at one time...hehe.
 
jamacian said:
Good luck if you ever try to mix all those mics at one time...hehe.
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yeah .. uhm ...

anyone else still just use 3-4 mics and find the thought of all those tracks ... well, un-fun?

me:
Pair nt5s (which i paid wayyy more for than he did)
57 (snare)
Beta 52 (kick)

...

if it calls for it ... i'll throw some more 57s between toms - though i tend to enjoy recording drummers that use 1-2 toms rather than incessant tom-rollers.
 
lifes_a_fallacy said:
yeah .. uhm ...

anyone else still just use 3-4 mics and find the thought of all those tracks ... well, un-fun?

me:
Pair nt5s (which i paid wayyy more for than he did)
57 (snare)
Beta 52 (kick)

...

if it calls for it ... i'll throw some more 57s between toms - though i tend to enjoy recording drummers that use 1-2 toms rather than incessant tom-rollers.
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To each their own, right? I like lots of options.
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
To each their own, right? I like lots of options.
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You might not after you try mixing those options a few times.

I use 7 mics but I have 4 tom mics there. Sometimes I will throw up a 414 for a room mic making 8 but man, that is tough to mix. I would hate 13.
 
jamacian said:
You might not after you try mixing those options a few times.

I use 7 mics but I have 4 tom mics there. Sometimes I will throw up a 414 for a room mic making 8 but man, that is tough to mix. I would hate 13.
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I can always take out what I don't need. Better that than wish you had thrown up a few more.
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
I can always take out what I don't need. Better that than wish you had thrown up a few more.
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Sure, if you got the mics, channels, time, money and patience....why not?

At some point though the mics will start absorbing sound rather than help capture it...ok, joking.
 
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