andrushkiwt
Well-known member
Not the best title, sorry, but I'm having an issue with something that hasn't come up yet. here goes:
I purchased an autofilter plugin (waves metafilter) and I'm encountering an issue with it. First, I should explain that the autofilter uses time sequences (1/4, 1/16 etc) to deploy its effects. For example, a "stutter" effect can be issued on a guitar channel. This gives it the in and out sound, almost techno-like, as the sounds rapidly (or however long you've set the mechanism) bob in and out, thus the preset name "stutter".
The problem is that if I put this same plugin AND preset (stutter) onto a second channel, the timing of the two channels aren't lining up properly. In theory, if it's the same plugin and setting, then I should hear the effect exactly the same on both channels and it would only appear that it's one loud channel (if not a true double take). But that's not happening. The second channel is out of time with the first. So, the stutter effect is no longer in perfect 1/4 timing. One channel might be, but the other is milliseconds behind it. Same plugin, same preset, same settings. It should be exactly the same time-wise on both sides, but it's clearly not in sync. If I disengage one side and then quickly turn it back on (the plugin, I mean), the timing is now slightly different. I keep flipping one of the plugins on and off, but I can't get it timed right so they are both in perfect sync.
The reason I need two channels, by the way, is because one will be playing a different lick. So they both need to be not only in 1/4 time for fx, but also synced to the DAW's clock. They don't seem to be doing that. I can test it by running the click track, but only one channel syncs to it properly... the other is slightly off.
Why would a plugin fx channel be out of sync with the DAW's time clock?
The above pic was taken when the track was stopped. You can't see it, but that meter on the bottom of the plug (1-16) is actually ticking away. It's moving 1-16 according to the rate I have selected. What that tells me is that it's set to its OWN internal time keeper. Everything is identical to the other channel (which follows the daw's clock perfectly) and all options are set to "sync".
Why isn't it moving in time with the DAW? It's milliseconds behind it. The first channel does it perfectly. I doubt a single channel more is causing lag. The system and buffers are just fine. No issues there. But I don't understand why it moves on its own time path, separate from the DAW. That makes no sense. If you want an effect in 1/4 timing, it's also very important to have it in 1/4 timing according to the DAW! Otherwise, it's in its own world!
I purchased an autofilter plugin (waves metafilter) and I'm encountering an issue with it. First, I should explain that the autofilter uses time sequences (1/4, 1/16 etc) to deploy its effects. For example, a "stutter" effect can be issued on a guitar channel. This gives it the in and out sound, almost techno-like, as the sounds rapidly (or however long you've set the mechanism) bob in and out, thus the preset name "stutter".
The problem is that if I put this same plugin AND preset (stutter) onto a second channel, the timing of the two channels aren't lining up properly. In theory, if it's the same plugin and setting, then I should hear the effect exactly the same on both channels and it would only appear that it's one loud channel (if not a true double take). But that's not happening. The second channel is out of time with the first. So, the stutter effect is no longer in perfect 1/4 timing. One channel might be, but the other is milliseconds behind it. Same plugin, same preset, same settings. It should be exactly the same time-wise on both sides, but it's clearly not in sync. If I disengage one side and then quickly turn it back on (the plugin, I mean), the timing is now slightly different. I keep flipping one of the plugins on and off, but I can't get it timed right so they are both in perfect sync.
The reason I need two channels, by the way, is because one will be playing a different lick. So they both need to be not only in 1/4 time for fx, but also synced to the DAW's clock. They don't seem to be doing that. I can test it by running the click track, but only one channel syncs to it properly... the other is slightly off.
Why would a plugin fx channel be out of sync with the DAW's time clock?
The above pic was taken when the track was stopped. You can't see it, but that meter on the bottom of the plug (1-16) is actually ticking away. It's moving 1-16 according to the rate I have selected. What that tells me is that it's set to its OWN internal time keeper. Everything is identical to the other channel (which follows the daw's clock perfectly) and all options are set to "sync".
Why isn't it moving in time with the DAW? It's milliseconds behind it. The first channel does it perfectly. I doubt a single channel more is causing lag. The system and buffers are just fine. No issues there. But I don't understand why it moves on its own time path, separate from the DAW. That makes no sense. If you want an effect in 1/4 timing, it's also very important to have it in 1/4 timing according to the DAW! Otherwise, it's in its own world!