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    My UMC22 arrived! can do everything but a nogo on Reaper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadpui View Post
    Ha, awesome! I'd recommend trying ASIO4ALL first, and if that doesn't satisfy your needs then move to those legacy drivers from Behringer. It's been several months since I've tried the UMC22 with ASIO4ALL personally, so maybe there have been updates that return it to its former glory with Windows 10. I was getting ~2ms of latency in each direction before a Windows update spoiled that fun.
    Hi Tadpui I have the problem of: Hi Yup my UMC22 was not working with Reaper as Windows is also holding my Behringer UMC22 USB Audio Codec Microphone in "Windows recording" hostage as the default device in Windows. I have no options to switch to the USB Audio Codec in Reaper Preferences as you mentioned in your video. How do you fix it? as you say in your video "change away from the USB audio Codec as the Default recording device in Windows" so I/you can have it freed up to choose in Reaper preferences? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoarybat View Post
    Hi Tadpui I have the problem of: Hi Yup my UMC22 was not working with Reaper as Windows is also holding my Behringer UMC22 USB Audio Codec Microphone in "Windows recording" hostage as the default device in Windows. I have no options to switch to the USB Audio Codec in Reaper Preferences as you mentioned in your video. How do you fix it? as you say in your video "change away from the USB audio Codec as the Default recording device in Windows" so I/you can have it freed up to choose in Reaper preferences? Thanks
    Now, you DO have my sympathy Hoarybat and what I am about to say is in no way meant as a criticism but..

    Let this experience serve as a warning to others wanting a cheap start to recording.

    In the last 10 years or so I have had maybe 6 AIs, none of them very expensive and a good half of them second hand. In each case the interface had proper, ASIO drivers downloadable and the interfaces worked more or less, 'out of the box' in both XP and later W7. IMHO (I am a computer numpty) ANY current interface SHOULD work perfectly with any major OS* and only minimal faffing be needed to make it so. Once done there should be no need for further faffings!

    Caveat bloody emptor!

    *Yes, I know there are a few mac only and Windows only devices but these are all, AFAIK, 'top end'?

    Dave.

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    We got it sorted off-site. It was a configuration issue in the asio4all control panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadpui View Post
    We got it sorted off-site. It was a configuration issue in the asio4all control panel.
    Glad to hear it! I still think a MASSIVE! Company like Behringer should provide well written drivers for all their digital product and not leave customers floundering with a rather out of date 'wrapper'.
    By definition almost, those customers are going to be first time AI newbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecc83 View Post
    Glad to hear it! I still think a MASSIVE! Company like Behringer should provide well written drivers for all their digital product and not leave customers floundering with a rather out of date 'wrapper'.
    By definition almost, those customers are going to be first time AI newbs.

    Dave.
    I agree that it was a poor choice on Behringer's part to rely on 3rd party drivers that aren't under their control. Something between asio4all and Win10 snapped last year, and Behri is powerless to remedy it. At least there are some legacy Behri drivers for the old UCA interfaces that actually work for the orphaned UM2/UMC22, so anybody needing lower latency than what's possible with the minimum functional buffer size (256 samples) in asio4all can use those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadpui View Post
    I agree that it was a poor choice on Behringer's part to rely on 3rd party drivers that aren't under their control. Something between asio4all and Win10 snapped last year, and Behri is powerless to remedy it. At least there are some legacy Behri drivers for the old UCA interfaces that actually work for the orphaned UM2/UMC22, so anybody needing lower latency than what's possible with the minimum functional buffer size (256 samples) in asio4all can use those.
    Indeed it is nice to have it up and finally going. Audacity was easier in regard to having the drivers configured immediately. Like the simple Gui on Audicity but reaper seems to have more options so I'll give it a whirl. Thanks again fellas. On a non lucky note I just missed out on a Klipsch Reference R-15M speaker set $60 used on craigslist which had been posted only 5 hours before I saw it. Wanted a decent set of cheap bookshelf's to go with an old Sony receiver with LR wire Bass outs and a homeade passive 10" bass I am throwing together for a portable music system. The sony receiver is only temporary as I am seeking a decent mini-amp actually in the likes of Emotiva or equivalent without breaking the bank. I have a Sound Appeal mini-amp which is very good which claims 100 watts out 50 per channel but it is really more like 25 methinks. Should any of you have any suggestions on a decent mini-mid-size amp <10 lbs. with decent real specs that would be welcomed as they seem so hard to find as most seem to be very large or small-mini. Thanks again all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoarybat View Post
    Hi Tadpui I have the problem of: Hi Yup my UMC22 was not working with Reaper as Windows is also holding my Behringer UMC22 USB Audio Codec Microphone in "Windows recording" hostage as the default device in Windows. I have no options to switch to the USB Audio Codec in Reaper Preferences as you mentioned in your video. How do you fix it? as you say in your video "change away from the USB audio Codec as the Default recording device in Windows" so I/you can have it freed up to choose in Reaper preferences? Thanks
    Agreed Dave....I am glad it is working but yeah certainly not plug and play but I'm learning as I'm new to this and just started singing at age 50+ joining a learning/starting over 50+? guys group and this whole setup will help me practice on my own for our recitals. Need a damn man-cave (or even a shed LOL) cuz my family says the new hobby is too intrusive for them! LOL appreciative....

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    Audacity doesn't natively support ASIO, so it would have been using the built-in Windows audio system. It doesn't require any setup, but it has pretty horrendous latency. That definitely makes multitracking difficult. While ASIO requires a little bit of housekeeping to make it tip-top, it'll definitely pay off in the long run with its super-low latency and high performance. Glad you got up and running, now go and make some music!

    And I hear you on the "intrusive" hobby. I've been lucky to have family that support my passion (obsession, maybe?) about making and enjoying music. But I went from a soundproofed basement oasis to an upstairs office without a door. So now I guess the whole household gets to "enjoy" me banging on things and doing my best imitation of a bag full of dying felines while recording vocals. Hey, as long as they're quiet I don't mind if they don't mind

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    How are these compared to the Focusrite 2i2? Mine died

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    I always advise people to save a little bit more for their first audio interface - one that can handle at least 2 xlr / 1/4th in and a pair or RCA ins - if there's more that's great.

    Here's why. Once you start making music (if you get hooked) you're going to want to collaborate with others, and with a 2 in 2 out interface it can't be done. For $100 more you can get a decent 4 in 2 out. Even at $199 I think you can get a 6in 2 out.

    This also doesn't have midi in or out, which at some point, when you start to get into midi keys and drum pads, you're definitely going to want.

    Basically it's all about future proofing. Spend $200 now and have enough room to expand - if you go beyond that you'll need a much bigger interface.

    But for $39? It's fine. Just know that you'll probably be upgrading soon.

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