pandamonk
Well-known member
Alright guys. I was trying out the sound-files on the paiste site as I'm looking for cymbals for drum pupils of mine, and I think I've mad e a bit of a discovery. Now i know you can't fully trust sound-files, especially on shitty computer speaks and headphones that I'm listenin on, but if you have no other way of testing them out, they can be quite good.
Anyway, i sold a drumkit last xmas to a girl i now teach. It came with a really cheap brass hihat, but this thing sounds really good, imo. So in looking for cymbals for her(girl 1) and another girl(girl 2) i teach, i came across a great deal on a set of Paiste 101s. I snapped them up, because they are just beginners and just want some cymbals. They arrived and i tried them out. The ride and crash are nothing special, but again i liked the brass hi-hat.
I'm giving girl 2 the hihat and the girl 1 the crash and ride(she already has that nice hihat and just wants cymbals). Anyway, girl 1 wants more than 1 cymbal and girl 2 wants a couple cymbals, so i was looking out for some more and ended up on the paiste site. I was trying out the sound-samples and thought it try out some of the dearer cymbals for comparison and here's what i found:
14" 101 brass hihat
14" 2002 medium hihat
18" PST3 crash/ride
20" 2002 ride
20" PST3 ride
22" 2002 ride
Is it just me, or does the 101 hihat sound pretty close to the 2002 medium. Not exactly the same in an A/B comparison, but close. And wouldn't they be hard to distinguish between without A/B comparison? 2002 is roughly 5-6x the price.
And the 18" and 20" PST3 rides, wouldn't they fit quite nicely in the 2002 range, with the 20" PST3 between 20" and 22" 2002s (the 14" hats actually fit between the 13" and 14" too). They're not exact again, but would also be quite difficult outwith A/B. The 2002s are roughly 3-4x the price.
I know that I'm listening on crap speakers/headphones, that sound-files aren't a good way to try cymbals, and my ears aren't perfect, but there doesn't appear to be much in it.
What do you think? Do the 2002s deserve to b 3-6x the price?
Anyway, i sold a drumkit last xmas to a girl i now teach. It came with a really cheap brass hihat, but this thing sounds really good, imo. So in looking for cymbals for her(girl 1) and another girl(girl 2) i teach, i came across a great deal on a set of Paiste 101s. I snapped them up, because they are just beginners and just want some cymbals. They arrived and i tried them out. The ride and crash are nothing special, but again i liked the brass hi-hat.
I'm giving girl 2 the hihat and the girl 1 the crash and ride(she already has that nice hihat and just wants cymbals). Anyway, girl 1 wants more than 1 cymbal and girl 2 wants a couple cymbals, so i was looking out for some more and ended up on the paiste site. I was trying out the sound-samples and thought it try out some of the dearer cymbals for comparison and here's what i found:
14" 101 brass hihat
14" 2002 medium hihat
18" PST3 crash/ride
20" 2002 ride
20" PST3 ride
22" 2002 ride
Is it just me, or does the 101 hihat sound pretty close to the 2002 medium. Not exactly the same in an A/B comparison, but close. And wouldn't they be hard to distinguish between without A/B comparison? 2002 is roughly 5-6x the price.
And the 18" and 20" PST3 rides, wouldn't they fit quite nicely in the 2002 range, with the 20" PST3 between 20" and 22" 2002s (the 14" hats actually fit between the 13" and 14" too). They're not exact again, but would also be quite difficult outwith A/B. The 2002s are roughly 3-4x the price.
I know that I'm listening on crap speakers/headphones, that sound-files aren't a good way to try cymbals, and my ears aren't perfect, but there doesn't appear to be much in it.
What do you think? Do the 2002s deserve to b 3-6x the price?