muttley600
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lol... miroslave has climbed up onto the dumb scale and slid right off the fat end this time...
Well, you can romanticize the american way all you want. The real point is that my grandparents didn't literally fight for their lives in WWII so I'd have to, by actual rule or unwritten rule, be a good little flag waver. The very first amendment of our beloved constitution specifically states that I'm free to think and feel however I want about matters such as this. Being indifferent is me exercising my rights. My grandparents fought to preserve the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness....against a very real threat. If thousands of north koreans stormed Galveston beaches, I'd pick up a rifle and take down as many as I could. Standing in line to cast a meaningless vote for a career politician is not my idea of taking action. Go ask some vietnam vets how they feel about being forced to be good little americans.If you backtrack USA history, you'll see that "indifference" is NOT what got you your freedom that you now so happily enjoy. That's really the point.
You're focusing on the wrong things as usual. But tell me miro, since you were obviously standing outside with me talking with these kids, were they there all on their own? So they woke up on a sunday of their own free will and decided that instead of hanging out enjoying their free time on the last day of their weekend, they'd rather pursue the thankless task of going door-to-door, unsolicited, asking political questions? Those notes they were taking as I stood there answering their obviously loaded scripted questions, that was for their diaries, right? Were they scrapbooking? Lol please. The very nature of their questions, the content of their questions, the way they read their questions, the way they had absolutely no retorts to my shooting down their misguided assumptions, and the way they furiously took notes pretty much confirms to me that this was some kind of assignment or exercise they were being directed to do. Maybe it was a school assignment. Maybe it was something from their church. Maybe their parents are trying to get them interested in politics and took it too far. It could be lots of bad judgement that got these kids to my door. What it wasn't was them just doing it for fun because they're so interested in political opinions.Mmmmmm....maybe now as the thread splinters off into side discussions....but initially, his main point was that the two kids at his door were obviously brainwashed by their parents...and therefore "Hitler Youth".
Miro, do you have kids? I'm betting you don't because you have it 100% ass backwards with every comment you've made about kids and how schools operate. But putting aside your egregious ignorance on that matter, ask yourself this - would you want your kids being politically led around by people you don't really know? People send their kids to school to be educated, not manipulated. You're right that teens talking party politics is not odd. But they talk about it probably less than you or I did, and they're more clueless than ever because party politics is more dysfunctional and convoluted than ever and kids typically just "support" whatever political agendas their parents have up to a certain age/social status. And if there is any change, they might talk about it even less because it is actually so fucked up right now. But you know what teens DO NOT do? Go door to door talking politics because they want to. Teens are far more concerned with social issues close to home. Gay rights, bullying, racial problems. Real things they can see and experience first hand. They don't give a rat's ass about corporate government buyouts, healthcare, oil interests, or tensions with Russia and North Korea.Granted, only he knows how the encounter actually went....but I just don't see that teens talking politics is that odd these days.
I bet you could walk into any sophomore/junior high-school history and/or economics class, and politics along with other world issues are discussed quite a bit and in depth....which was my point.
IOW....kids aren't just getting their info and life direction from their parents. I mean...this ain't the '50s.
No one is suggesting that kids should be over-protected. Thinking it's a bad idea to turn kids loose in a neighborhood on a sunday to knock on every door asking political questions is not "sheltering". Again, you clearly don't understand or have very skewed view of parenting and/or how the current world operates. Again, I have to assume you simply don't have kids or you live in some fantasy utopian community. You are seriously out of touch with reality. Speaking of being stuck in the 50s....this is a very different world from when you were a kid, and from when I was a kid. People don't welcome unsolicited knocks on the door anymore. Granny doesn't let apple pies cool on the window sill and give fresh baked cookies to all the neighborhood kids anymore. Milk isn't delivered in glass bottles at 5 am anymore. It's a different era. Times have changed. You don't just unleash children on their own into a neighborhood anymore. You especially don't turn them loose loaded with a potentially polarizing agenda. How can you not get that? Right, you probably don't have kids, am I right? Even halloween is drastically different now. You might call that over protective because you have no skin in the game. But things and people are generally worse than they used to be. I wouldn't turn my kids loose in a neighborhood to knock on doors without some kind of chaperone or protection. If that's me being over-protective, then fine. I have girls and I don't want them grabbed and dragged into a van down by the river. But really, I wouldn't do it because it's a discourteous thing to do. Id rather teach them that it's not okay to go bugging people with stupid shit.Also....over-protecting the kids is just another form of indoctrination. It shelters them from realities that they will find out anyway, and maybe the hard way....instead of at least being involved in discussions and activities that let them form real opinions rather than just remaining indifferent and/or hidden from that.
Agreed. Going to door to door is not how you do it though.I mean....we are talking about kids in their mid-teens....not kids in grammar school.
At 16...they will be able to vote in two years. I think it's good to spend some time ahead of that, learning about politics and being involved in what goes on in the country and the world.
Lol. That tired old lame ass "you can't complain durrrrr" comment. There you go again, selectively dictating who can or can't use their rights. Newsflash: anyone can complain about anything they want! Damn dude, you graduated from Hitler youth right into Hitler adulthood.It's too easy to simply not get involved, and figure that someone else will....but then, they can't ever complain about stuff that's going on in government.
Too many words gerg... too many words.
Miroslave just needs another one of these.
I vote on how handsome the candidate is,
That's actually pretty much how everyone votes for anything.
For real though, be honest and transparent for once miro, you're only upset by this because I dared to jokingly compare these nice young red-blooded republican robots to Hitler Youth.
Yeah, too bad you couldn't hear the sarcasm in my voice when I was typing that....
Naaa....it's just because you tend to make extreme assumptions, and then label people based on those assumptions.
I think I already said it didn't matter which political side it's about, and I've never once mentioned either party in this thread. I was just saying that there's nothing odd about teenagers being interested in politics.
If you want to keep making more assumptions.....also about what I'm posting....well, I can't stop you there.
Maybe political activism is just odd to you, since you're indifferent and pay no attention to politcs....maybe back in your high-school days, class time was a different experiece....but that doesn't necessarily apply to everyone, and possibly not to those kids.
I recall back in my high-school days discussing all kinds of world/political matters...and there was nothing strange about it, nor was it about any "brainwashing/indoctrination".
Talk about conspiracy theories!!!
AFA as "should" a couple of teens be walking door to door....well, if you can accept girl scouts going around, and Halloween kids going around....then I guess a couple of 16-year olds talking politics isn't much of a big deal, is it?
There are no winners, we're all fucked, politically speaking.
Politicians, fuggin crooks and self serving liars
*spit*
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