Johneeeveee:
My rant wasn't aimed at anyone in particular. It was more or less a plea to (certain people) leave David the hell alone. Everywhere I look lately there's a message posted by him saying "Hey you might want to check this out it could be interesting to some of you" followed by 30-100 messages screaming at him for posting. Then there seems to be some twisted need to start referring to post from other threads that are completely unrelated to the original post... it kinda gets completely away from why we're (supposed to be) here for in the first place.
I look at it this way:
If the post was inappropriate then the moderator would have deleted it. It's not my BBS so who the hell am I to say what's appropriate or not? If I felt the moderator might have missed something then I'd drop him/her a note pointing it out. Beyond that I let it be.
I just feel bad for David... he's just trying to defend his business' reputation. Much like any one of us would if we had an unhappy customer.
I had a cellular carrier that was, for some unknown reason, incapable of keeping my invoicing straight for my business... they ended up costing me around $12,000 in lost revenue because of incompetence (Which I did get back in court). Yet that company has thousands of very happy customers today.
The point? OK A few people here have had bad experiences with David. That doesn't negate his skill, knowledge or abilities to do what he does.
Now on the other hand.....
David:
I've read some of your responses to these attacks on your business and I have to say that although I can see you're trying to maintain a certain level of composure, on several occasions you stepped over that fine line and left profesionalism far behind. It's understandable that you feel passionate about your business and you probably feel personally attacked when someone says something like
"to all young, old, or unsigned musicians. dont send ant of these leaches like david any money period!" -- So the guy didn't get what he expected from your site/service. What was it that he expected to get? Noone knows cause he hasn't posted specifics of what it was he thought you were going to do for him.
If there's something that these people (for whatever reason) think they
should be getting from your site/service, maybe you should first try to determine
exactly what that something is... then try to find out what (if anything) in your sales copy is being misinterpreted.
However, I have a feeling that much of this could very well be the result of this "instant gratification" world we now live in. You need something? *CLICK* got it. Heard a good song on the radio on the way home from work? *CLICK* got it on my HD in MP3. Microsoft has a cool new flight sim out? *CLICK* Got it from Kazaa!!
Many of the people I deal with day to day seem to have lost the whole concept that some things take time and effort. I want a music career! *CLICK* "Son of a bitch!!! Don't give this guy any of your money!!! It's a scam!!!"
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Now before I get beat up, I'm NOT saying this applies to anyone here... that's really up to you to decide if it applies to you.
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I really don't know what you expect David to do... or any other service for that matter. From what I gather (And feel free to correct me... politely!) he's offering information that could otherwise take a significant ammount of time to gather online (Again... depending on your skill) -- I get the impression from some of the comments I see tossed like grenades at David and his business that you seem to expect him to make you a star.
"OK Dave... here's my $77.00 USD now get me a booking at the Palace of Aubourn Hills, Michigan." I got a better idea... why don't I take $150,000 of my own money and finance someone's career? You know pay for transportation/booking fees/equipment rental/studio time etc... all on the possibility that you
might be able to generate enough public interest to earn that money back for me and then some.
Sure you worked hard writing and recording all that music you make (And believe me I have heard some
amazing music come out of this BBS.) But no matter how much I like it or believe it
should be the next #1 hit, there's no way in hell I would put my time, money or reputation on the line to back anyone here. And I doubt that any record label out there would. Why? Because if they spent any time getting back ground info on any of you (and you know who you are) or found out about you from this BBS then they wouldn't want to be bothered with the hastle of dealing with you... they're record producers... not baby-sitters.
So please can someone tell me exactly what it is that David has done? What is it that you all
think it is he's selling... then tell me
why or
how you got that impression???? If you can't be specific as to what the hell he's done, said or promissed that he didn't come through with than by all means people
shut the fuck up!
My kids are better behaved than many of the people here "He took my crayon!!!! MOM!!!!!"
- Tanlith -
P.S. -- If at any time you got the impression I was just yelling or pissed off... let me set the record straight... I was smiling and chuckling to myself the whole time I was typing all this up.
P.S.S. -- "Stress and worry are like a rocking chair.... they'll keep you busy, but they won't get you anywhere!"