There are threads in here where I go into pretty good detail on how to make fake drums sound better. Basic stuff from an actual drummer's perspective that can improve the realism of fake drums. Ask real drummers and we all pretty much agree on things that can make fake drums better. I went over a bunch of stuff with minerman, and his shit got way way better.
Yep, I can say for a fact, that with Greg & Rami's help, my programmed drums sound much, much better. You've gotta approach it like you're actually playing the damn drums though. I even took the subject so seriously that I bought a little Yamaha e-kit last winter. Like Miro said, most drummers will hit the drum (in a fill) that's closest to 'em, just because that's how our bodies work. I feel kinda guilty about my fake drum shit popping up in other threads, but if I don't ask, I'll never find out the truth, ya know???
Both Greg & Rami have helped me quite a bit, mostly in pm's, but they do know what the fuck they're talking about. Whenever I sit down to work on my fake drums, the very first thing I ask myself is "what & how would Greg/Rami play here"...
There's a sticky
here at the top of the forum that has a bunch of good tips for drum programming, but just trying to think how a drummer would actually hit something (roll, fill, whatever) is the basis for it all....I could go on & on, but I'll just leave it there...
hell, how do you think I feel about live players? Nowadays 75% of the live players I hear suck. And then everyone around me oohs and ahhs over how awesome they are.
I say nothing because when I say, "He sucks" they don't understand. They think I'm being mean but I'm not ..... they suck is why I say it.
But I don't say it anymore because no one seems to have any discernment about music anymore.
Only here ..... in the tone thread ..... remain the last dozen or so non-zombie musicians hiding away from the apocalypse.
Amen Bob, that's it, 110%, period...I saw a band at the beach summer before last. The guitar player had nice gear: PRS something-a-nother, nice little Fender combo, quite a few pedals, & his tones were quite good. But, the guy couldn't play for shit, seriously, he was just another mindless "clone" who thought good gear would make him a good player. That ain't the case. Sure, good gear will help you sound better, no doubt about it, but that cannot compensate for lack of talent to begin with. The guy just plain sucked, period. In my opinion, if he'd worked on his chops half as much as he'd worried about what gear to use, he'd been a killer, but, he didin't, so he sucked...
The problem is you need to get real drummers and drum recorders in there, otherwise it's just the blind leading the blind.
I think it's a great idea for you guys who actually mic & record real drums, but it'd be awful hard to keep people like me outta there. I mean, sure, I wouldn't purposely do anything to hi-jack the thread, but it would be hard to keep folks out of the thread who really have no business there to begin with...It's a double-edged blade man...
Edit: Oh yeah, the goosenecks just don't work for me guys. I have a couple of 'em, maybe they're cheap because they will not stay put, they always end up moving. I like little short mic stands with little short booms on 'em myself...