Your technique - Line out or mic on your amplifier ? Which one you do ?

[Supercreep]

I use whatever technique is going to get me the results I'm looking for.

I use modelers. I have many amps, both tube and SS. I use guitar effects on vocals. I sing through mic'd cabinets. Whatever gets me to the finish line.

The only caution I'd give is to not knock something just because it's unsuitable for a specific purpose. Try lots of things, and keep the techniques in your hip pocket for when you might want to use them to good effect.

I am always baffled by artists that dwell on absolutes.

Dinty: When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is quit digging.

Rami is mercurial, but he's also one of the best artists here. Give him room.

 

[grimtraveller]

I use whatever technique is going to get me the results I'm looking for.


I am always baffled by artists that dwell on absolutes.

In certain areas of life I believe in absolutes. But for me, one of the best things about recording is that there are very few, if any absolutes, or least there aren't for me. I'll try many different things, even if the eventual song may be a little lesser because of it. I'm shamelessly eclectic.

 

[Dogbreath]

(googling eclectic)

 

[Dogbreath]

"A person who derives ideas, style, or taste from a broad and diverse range of sources."



me too.

 

[grimtraveller]

"A person who derives ideas, style, or taste from a broad and diverse range of sources."



me too.

I kind of work on the basis that something that has worked for someone else is worth investigating and trying out.

 

[PMarq]

I typically try to do both. That way I can have more flexibility when it comes time to mix the track. I love the sound of a fantastic player playing a great guitar through a great amp though. If only I had access to those ALL the time, I wouldn't need to use DI's on guitars...

 

[Chili]

I hadn't seen this thread until today. Busy with life stuff; I'm sure the other mods are too. Sorry it went on so long. I deleted most of the garbage... 58 posts. Whew.

Thanks to the person who reported it.

Please let's be more civilized in the on topics. I love a good fight, but don't want to dilute useful info.

Peace,

 

[mixsit]

We come in on the and of three..
/ / / "Take out the garbage and the trash.."

 

[moresound]

You should see some of the other threads! Their sitting around in the cave sipping tea and eating tiny little cakes!
The weirdest thing I've ever seen.

 

[stevieb]

Off topic: why did this go cluster fuck again?...

By asking the question, haven't you become part of the CF?

 

[Brumus]

ARGGGGGGGG! Somebody, please, please, PLEASE, write a freakin' sticky on all the reasons going direct from a guitar amp is a horrible idea!!

aah yes, usually true, except in the case of the Mesa Boogie Mk IV guitar amp, the 'silent recording' output (as they call it) works extremely well; better than any line out DI or packaged sounds from a box. whatever your sound was/is when the speaker is on, thats the same sound i get on the console, when the large room monitors are on its even bigger than the amp alone, mic'ed, in the room.
other than this firsthand knowledge of this exception, i would otherwise agree wholeheartedly with the quote above.

 

[edschultze]

I do both when recording my guitar. I like to use 4 mics in different locations around the amp/room for the different dynamics and the line out for the rather flat response.

 

[GazLion]

I have a couple of questions, I'd be grateful if I could get some answers....

Do people use condenser or dynamic mic's against amps? Also, when recording an amp, in general does the amp need to be cranked fairly loud to get a decent full tone? I'm using a Vox VT-30, but unfortunately not really in an environment where I can get past half way on the volume dial.

 

[JB's Studio]

I've gone digital on this. POD HD + No Cabinet Model + Red Wire Cabinet IR. Sounds fine to me this way.

 

[dlowmoney]

I personally beleive there is a lot to gain from doing both (depending on what kind of equipment your using).

As a bass player, I love the warm sound of my Ampeg SVT Classic cab, but the line out on my EDEN WT550 bass head gives such a rich sound, I love to record them both and mix them together, sometimes panning one left and one right.

 

[Shawn777]

While I have been able to get a cleaner (no background noise) sound direct line, I have only been able to get that sound my Celestians make recording with mic. I like the airy feel it adds to the sound too.

In real terms not up to "pro" standards, but I enjoy a good live sound more than perfect.

 

[ofajen]

Well, technically, my old Traynor tube amps don't have line outs, so I just mike them, but there are other line level things I do, like use a DI or my old Korg pedal board. Just depends. But playing thru an amp is generally more fun and generally makes it easier to hear dynamics properly, and both of those count for something.

Cheers,

Otto

 

[diggy_dude]

For quite a while now.

And it's always sounded like ass.

Neither my guitarist friend nor I have an amp. We're going to mic an acoustic and use a SansAmp as DI for electric until he gets one.

 

[Treeline]

I always shoot for micing the amp over any other technique. But thank God for direct line in jacks, because sometimes a mic isn't a great idea for other reasons. Same is true for live sound. When possible, everything is mic'd to FOH and then I pound on the band to keep stage level down as much as I can. I'll give them plenty of monitor feed but sometimes I have to pull out the blood spattered chainsaw to get them away from the "just a little more me" syndrome. If they start playing FOH with their amps, the band's sound is completely fncked. Grrrr...

 

[Captain Ego]

Either. I like a mic, but I don't have the greatest amp or mic, and if I want a tone that isn't my little amp, I use the amp simulator on a pedal, or the line out of my modelling amp, but it was designed with a cab emulator, so it isn't just a regular line out. I would never use an actual line out from a regular amp head. ewww.