yes, another mixer opinion question..

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littledog said:
I would use the insert points (cable patched halfway in, assuming no direct outs) for sending one mixer channel to one tape channel. If you need to send a blend of more than one mixer channel to one tape track, it would be useful to have subgroups. If you can't afford a mixer with subgroups, you would be forced to use the aux sends, but that would mean you could not use those sends for the usual functions like cue (headphone) mixes and effects sends.
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Am I an idiot when I say I never heared of using an insert point to route your signal to your recorder? I thought the insert point was only used to do some prefade compression or whatever. And isn't an insert point pre -fade? so why send them like that to your recorder/computer? Maybe a few dumb question, but I can't follow that.

I simply always thought: use direct outs, and when they are not available, use available aux send.

By the way, I really like the look of that M-series of soundcraft. anyone know the prices on these?
 
You can use an insert by taking the send(tip), and wiring it back(return), and then also to the other end of the cord, and you get a direct out from an insert.
 
tyler657recpro said:
You can use an insert by taking the send(tip), and wiring it back(return), and then also to the other end of the cord, and you get a direct out from an insert.
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I'm not going to say Tyler is wrong, because to be honest, I don't understand a word of what he said.

But making an insert into a direct out is a long standing tried-and true practise on boards withut dedicated direct outs. It is accomplished by plugging your cable into the insert point, and then pulling it back out one "click". This creates the equivalent of a half-normalled circuit.
 
Just FYI to kind of bring this topic to a close, I have purchased a Soundcraft Spirit FX8 - new condition - $365 shipped. I'm looking forward to using.

Thanks again for everybody's help!
 
tip=send ring=return sleeve=cold

solder the tip of the plug that will go into the insert, to its own ring. Then take a two conductor wire, the cold to the sleeve, and the hot to the tip. Then on the other end of the wire, put on a regular two conductor 1/4 plug, cold to sleeve, and hot to tip. You've got yourself a direct out. And it works. I've done it before.
 
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