XY recording?

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I've come across the term "XY recording" several times, but i have no idea what it means. Would someone be so kind as to explain? thanks
 
do yourself a favor.

read all of these books.

Must Read Books...Also, be sure to peruse the the Audio Engineering Society's Internet Archive. (AES)...there is a fee, but it is well worth it. http://www.aes.org/e-lib/ I have learned a lot from snooping around there..
http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/index.html

Sound Recording Handbook
Master Handbook of Acoustics
Behind The Glass
Total Recording
Tape Recorders
Sound recording practice
Professional Microphone Techniques
Principles of Digital Audio
The New Stereo Soundbook
The Microphone book
On Location Recording Techniques
Electroacoustical Reference Handbook
Audio Engineering
Handbook of Recording Engineering
Audio Dictionary
Handbook of Recording Engineering
From tinfoil to Stereo, a history of recording
Yamaha Sound Reinforcement Handbook
Mastering Audio
The Mixing Engineer's Handbook
 
BigRay said:
do yourself a favor.

read all of these books.

Must Read Books...Also, be sure to peruse the the Audio Engineering Society's Internet Archive. (AES)...there is a fee, but it is well worth it. http://www.aes.org/e-lib/ I have learned a lot from snooping around there..
http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/index.html

Sound Recording Handbook
Master Handbook of Acoustics
Behind The Glass
Total Recording
Tape Recorders
Sound recording practice
Professional Microphone Techniques
Principles of Digital Audio
The New Stereo Soundbook
The Microphone book
On Location Recording Techniques
Electroacoustical Reference Handbook
Audio Engineering
Handbook of Recording Engineering
Audio Dictionary
Handbook of Recording Engineering
From tinfoil to Stereo, a history of recording
Yamaha Sound Reinforcement Handbook
Mastering Audio
The Mixing Engineer's Handbook
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wow. that's more than i thought i needed. i figured if i needed to know that much about this, i'd take a recording engineer course lol. but it will certainly provide me with endless hours of educational material. thank you very much. i appreciate it.
 
Gee.... and all this time I thought it referred to the chromosomal makeup of the recording person...

There's a lot of XY recording going on around here Nicole, not much XX - this raises the further question of whether a female can successfully utilise the previously mentioned XY mic technique or whether it's an abnormality / sport / variant available only to those of the male gender...

Let us know how you go, please.

Welcome to the board Nicole and in particular the mic forum, where too much misinformation is barely enough! There be monsters ahead...

Cheers ;)
 
can someone please do a quick explanation of panning with xy miking...i woudl appreciate it a ton. For instance if the mic is pointed toward the hihat, I would pan that mic towards the left speaker adn if the other was pointed toward floor tom, I would pan to the right speaker... is this correct?(traditional right hand drum setup)
 
Well I guess you could make them go eather way, but usualy you'd want the one pointing to the left to go to the left, right to the right, and then pan your tom/snare/bass mic's acordingly, such as the bass in the center and the snare 30%-40% left
 
Armistice said:
Gee.... and all this time I thought it referred to the chromosomal makeup of the recording person...

There's a lot of XY recording going on around here Nicole, not much XX - this raises the further question of whether a female can successfully utilise the previously mentioned XY mic technique or whether it's an abnormality / sport / variant available only to those of the male gender...

Let us know how you go, please.

Welcome to the board Nicole and in particular the mic forum, where too much misinformation is barely enough! There be monsters ahead...

Cheers ;)
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thanks for the welcome Chris,

throughout history men have said that women couldn't or shouldn't do whatever fun thing it was that men were doing. in most cases women could perform just fine. all except fathering children, we're not too good at that one. ;)

i doubt very much that XY stereo recording is something as fundamental as fathering a child lol. i think i'll do fine with it after some experimentation lol.

thanks for all the help folks
 
very cool, an active female member on this forum.
 
Welcome aboard Nicole. As you read thru here, you'll see there's a wealth of info from these fine folks.

And Tim, great link on the mic techniques. Thanks for that. I found a couple that I had no clue of.

Guess I can't type in my boxers anymore...thanks alot Nicole. :)
 
Nicole_Rose said:
throughout history men have said that women couldn't or shouldn't do whatever fun thing it was that men were doing.
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Of course we have; we knew you'd be better at it than us.
 
hmmm...if you have more than 1 thing being stereo mic'd in a mix. how would you pan?

say you have the right and left of drums and right left of piano, and you 2 mic'd an acoustic.

i mean...you can't just hard pan everything, and wouldn't panning something over just lose the stereo tone that you want? some strange phase type problem could happen too.

would you just stereo mic the instrument that is the focus of the song, and just one mic any other instruments.

if something is taking up the same frequency and panning space...you would have to do something about that...
 
Hard panning doesn't create a stereo image but two mono images so to speak. Panning at 85 L/R (or so) will give you a true stereo imagery. It's the overlap. ;)
 
Arrowhen said:
Of course we have; we knew you'd be better at it than us.
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lol :D

so that's why. i'll have to let the girls know ;)
 
Micter said:
Hard panning doesn't create a stereo image but two mono images so to speak. Panning at 85 L/R (or so) will give you a true stereo imagery. It's the overlap. ;)
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I'm assuming you mean mono tracks panned left-ish and righ-ish to simulate stereo? Things that have been mic'd in true stereo (XY, ORTF, etc.) are meant to be hard panned L and R.--- to keep the original stereo spread.

Tim
 
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cello_pudding said:
hmmm...if you have more than 1 thing being stereo mic'd in a mix. how would you pan?
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If you used ORTF or a spaced pair (not as mono compatible) you can reduce gain a bit on one side of a stereo track to "place" it where you want in the L/R soundstage. Avoids phase problems. I do that with multitracked acoustic guitar duets sometimes, but usually prefer the sound I get when tracking in mono and just panning to, say, 10 and 2 o'clock.

If you used XY, you can mix the L and R without phase problems, so you can just pan them any way you want. If you want stereo realism though, pan hard L and R.

Tim
 
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Micter said:
Hard panning doesn't create a stereo image but two mono images so to speak. Panning at 85 L/R (or so) will give you a true stereo imagery. It's the overlap. ;)
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the overlap already exists because the left mic picks up sound coming from the right, and the right mic picks up sound from the left, and both pick up some of the sound from the middle. its just the differing tones of the same source sound that give it the stereo sound.

if you were to double a mono electric guitar track and pan it hard LR...then there would be no overlap so to speak. and you would want to give it a little 85% RL pan.
 
huh?

Timothy Lawler said:
I'm assuming you mean mono tracks panned left-ish and righ-ish to simulate stereo? Things that have been mic'd in true stereo (XY, ORTF, etc.) are meant to be hard panned L and R.--- to keep the original stereo spread.

Tim
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simulate stereo? does that mean there are ways to fake stereo images?
 
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