writer's block on chord prgressions

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starting to feel like I'm using the same chord progressions, especially for choruses, over and over again (can't escape the grasp of the I to mVI).

Check out some Queens of the Stone Age and Kyuss' Circus Leaves Town and Sky Valley...mostly power chords but done well and not (too) dependent on the pentatonic minor scale. thefade.net has most of the tabs.

For heavy rock, try the various combinations/riffs w/ I, iii, IV, dim V. It's one of my faves. And try sharping/flatting intervals during the riff/progression for a non-traditional sound, e.g. I, iii, III, VII (F#, A, Bb, then low E)...taken from QOTSA's How to Handle a Rope but arranged for non-C tuning, or Black Sabbath with I, V, dim V.
 
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There are a couple of things that I do:

I write a lot in minor keys (mostly instrumental music for piano), so I thing about the same song in a major key.... really shakes things up

This sounds dumb, but I don't try to write perfectly when I'm stuck (of course I have the extremely rare flash when I sit down and a song just pours out). My point is, that I often say, okay here's a C, A minor goes good with that..... after a while of being stuck I just start to hit chords... hmmm, went from C to Eb, what could come next. The results are often terrible.... but I occasionally hit the "happy accident" in which something I never would have thought of, works pretty well.

As an aside, the piano has the same pianoisms as the guitar. There are certain notes and chords and runs that seem to feel better under the fingers. It takes some work to break out of that.

Regarding other instruments.... I compose pretty soft "pretty" piano music. When I sit down in the studio with synths, the music is very different. So that helps the rut too.

Great thread.

Take Care
 
When I was fairly young songwriter, I challenged myself to use a new technique with every song I wrote. It might be a chord or chord quality I'd never used, a wierd scale, an odd meter, nonstandard structure, a strange sound, etc. I avoided diatonic harmony like the plague; I don't think there was a V-I in any of the songs I wrote for several years.
After a while I joined a pop band, and I was increasingly called upon to be more orthodox in my writing. Eventually I learned the raw power of some of the standard chord progressions out there, and of diatonic harmony in general.

I've kind of hit a middle road now, because I got away from focussing on the chords. It's to easy to get into making songs chord-chord-chord-chord without any sense of flow. I concentrate on the flow, on the feel, and on underscoring melodies. Not just the vocal melody, either -- countermelodies, harmonies, solos, etc.

Most of what I write now revolves around conventional progressions with some well-placed "twists". For example, I did a song not too long ago where the last line of the chorus did a very typical C-G/B-Am-G-F-G-C. But I switched out the G after the Am to a D7/F#. It worked out really well, kind of underscored the lyric appropriately. On another song I was ending it C-Dm-F-G-C. But instead of that last G I used Abmaj7, and instead of holding the last C for two bars I did a little riff of C-Eb6-Dm7-C (note that all 3 chords contain a C, which was the melody note). There's lot of cool little twists you can do like that to spice up bland chord progressions if your ear is getting tired of G-C-D. I used to feel bad that I didn't like simple progressions, like I was "being a musician" about it. But I've come to realize that that's just my set of tastes and it makes me the artist I am.
 
maryslittlesecret said:
Hi, all. I've been writing for 15+ years now and am starting to feel like I'm using the same chord progressions, especially for choruses, over and over again (can't escape the grasp of the I to mVI).

Any thoughts, reference, resources on how to break this slump or place to find some fresh ideas? Let me know. Peace!

J

P.S. It's probably worth mentioning that I'm writing in a 'heavy rock' style, but still with enough melody to warrant a developing harmony...

Well i am in the same boat. I am writing songs of the same style roughly. If it is for choruses try and find new rythyms rather than just new chorrd progressions. For instance use 7 chords rather than the usual 4 chords. And try holding the length of certain chords for different amounts of bars. I think every single 4 chord chorus progression has already been used in some type of music, so it is time to progress to new ways of playing progressions. Another one to try is keeping a simple chord progression but concentrating on the higher notes of the chords. Try and use the same higher notes at points with different root notes. THis gives the ilussion to the listener that the chord progresion is different and fresh until the listener really listens to the tune critically. Hope i have been of a help to a fellow rocker and that some of this makes sense to you. write back if you wish if you want me to try to explain more my ideas. chou.
 
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