work it out

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Wow - hot tune - starts right off in high gear. This is only 2:04 - is that the whole tune (just curious). Top shelf playing as always Mr Gonzo-X. Your riffing is spectacular. Kudos to your drummer as well - he's hot.

Are you using the strat shown on your web page?

:D :D :D :D
 
A very nice slab of HARD ROCK. Very tight playing & production.
It's good that something happens after "let's go" nice solo there.
I'm not sure about the 4 note key line that came in about 2/3s of the way through. It doesn't seem to serve as anything barr a distraction.
Good track, good work. Fast, hard and short - hits the spot.
 
ido1957
hey thanks for checking it out!
no, not using the cream strat on that one.... it's all my 1984 Carvin DC200K. it's got a Kahler, and a duncan custom custom in the bridge, wired directly to the vol pot.......
straight into the mesa boogie, and the solo's got a barber direct drive ss driving the signal a bit.

2 minute song....
yep.
LOL

i really, really, wanted to write something that was kick ass for me, and be super short like the old classic radio format... where you hear the hits, and they're so short, they're over before you get good at singing the chorus!
:D



rayc-
slab is right!
LOL
just the center cut.....
the key line, yeah, you pretty much nailed it...
the idea was to break up the whole thing, almost like a curveball.
i wanted some kind of 'invention' to occur, before the solo, almost to 're-start' the song....
kind of a brain-slap, so i went out on a limb with a thing that stands out good or bad.
i knew it might be a turn off to some, but figured it was worth the risk, and besides, it's so damn short anyway, it doesn't have enough time to piss anybody off!
LOL again......
thanks for listening and commenting.
 
anyone else?
i'd love some feedback on this, but with only a couple of responses and something like 67 views, i figure it either sucks, nobody likes hard rock, or my breath stinks, or a combination of all the above!
LOL

tnx in advance
 
i was listening to this again in the headphones last night, and thought about how hard it is to dial the low end in.... bass and the meat of the drums..

then i listened to some pro recordings, and for sure there was more 'mid' info in the bass, but not as much LOW as in mine.....

then i played it back through my monitors, what i mixed them on, and the bass and drums were almost overpowering.

i've got some treatments, and i still compare pro recordings thru the monitors for low end content, so i know my system's not perfect, but not that far off either.

made me think about what systems you guys might be listening to the playback on.



also, made me think about how good a master engineer has to be to know which frequencies to tweak so that a mix will translate well on little pc speakers as well as large home theatre systems and typical kick ass home stereos.


i think i mix my bass and drums with a lot of low, but the meat of the sound is above 100hz, probably between 100hz and 300, which unfortunately is the mud area as well....

this is the biggest obstacle of all, low end energy versus mud.

anyone have any specific eq instruction for this mix?
 
Liked the song but the bass seems to drown out now and then.
 
david-
thanks for replying....
and thanks for the feedback.

i'm curious to know, what kind of system are you listening to the playback on?
is it a home system, or your monitor system?

here's the reason i ask...

i'm always battling to get a good even balance on high energy guitar parts, and a balanced bass sound that will sound good on any size system.....

i'm talking about too much energy in the high mids, and not enough of the RIGHT frequency in the bass guitar, to translate well to all systems.

you know, i work in digital now, as most of us do i imagine, and the longer that i play around with my mixing schemes, and different mics, and whatnot, there is a continuing annoying frequency that i hear, on individual tracks, and collectively as a whole as i mix, that starts around 900 hz..... all the way up thru about 2.5khz...

this is on FLAT eq'd input sounds, and FLAT on mixdown.

the longer i work with digital media, the more i feel that there were certain frequencies that ANALOG were 'more kind to'.....

whereas digital, gets it all, good AND bad...

now, this is just my own personal opinion, and based on nothing, except what my ears like to hear at this time in my life (how many ear-bone cells do i have left?!!) LOL

but it seems i'm happier with certain mixes, where i take anywhere from 900hz up to 1.8khz DOWN on guitar tracks, with a Q of about 1, so it's gentle.
no more than a DB, but definitely a dip, sounds better to me.

and on a lot of earlier mixes, and this one too, i was scared to take anything out, and would generally leave it, but honestly felt that it sounded better taking it out til it felt smooth on my ears.

now, i listen to certain crunchy guitar sounds that i really like (malcom young on highway to hell comes to mind) and i know he's got a lot of high mid bark, more than i have, yet it sounds absolutely smooth, even at volume.

i also know, that moving the mic even 1/64" to the left or right, of WHERE EVER it was, makes a sonic difference.

so on any given day, if i move the mic just a smidgeon, it makes or breaks the track.

i probably spend more time making micromoves of the mic, than i do playing the track.

a 'good' engineer wouldn't need to do all this BS, they'd just know how to get it quick, and move on.

i'm constantly struggling with it.

it should sound pretty full......

it kills on my monitor system, and sounded even better after falcon eddy mastered it, but clearly, i'm missing something in the low end of my mixes, especially with bass guitar, that is in the low mids, where there is a special MEAT eq, that comes across on ALL systems.

please tell me what that frequency is, so i can be rid of the demon.
 
There's a lot I like about this tune. As mentioned, it goes from 0-60 right out of the gate, and keeping it short was good. It made me want to hear it again. I'm listening to it for the 3rd time and am still hearing something different each time. the vocals at 1;21 are a nice touch and the bass guitar gets real nice at one point. I can't believe you put so much music into such a short track. Nice work. Guitar playing was good and vocals were song-approopriate.
 
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