will i run into problems with my amd k-6?

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will the delta66/44 or the event gina be compatible with my amd k-6 400mhz prosesser?
my mother board is a viking 3 agp, chipset?? beats me? i also have 128 megs of ram.
if not, does compatibility improove with the athlon?
 
I have a Delta66 in my AMD K6-2 400 mHZ...I have had some problems getting it set up (mostly with IRQ problems) but it seems to be running OK. I had one guy at MidiMan (the makers of the Delta 66) tell me that potential problems arise if you are using a VIA chipset (which I am). I talked to the people at Event and they strongly recommended staying away from the K6-2...they said lots of their customers used them with success but some didn't, and their warranty WILL NOT cover installation into a K6-2 system. I have also heard of problems with the Athlons.
The ABIT BE6-II motherboard with a Celeron processor would probably be your best bet.


Hope this helps...
 
AMD urrr Shudder chills ahhhh make the bad man stop!!! You will never NOT have problems with an AMD and Homerecording. And thats all I have to say about that.(Forest Gump)
 
OK i am not done on this topic.. If you call Event and ask them about AMD they will tell you that their products are not meant to work with amd and they wont either.. The conflict comes on the chipset that the Amd and Athlon use. And there is no way around it, It is such a problem that Amd and Event have had meetings to try and come up with the fix for it.(and motorola) Stillnothing. My answer to your question is Stay away from amd. I am all for the little guy company but only when it works..
 
shakes??? little guy company??? AMD has cornerd the market and left intel in the dust!!!!! and the AMD chips have always been faster. this bothers me that there are such compatibility problems with these souncards, and should bother midiman and event. they need to get on the ball or lose out on the MAJORITY of computer owners. i use my k6-2 for recording now and it can handle 11 tracks each five or so minutes long, so in that aspect of it, it works great.

the k6-2 was just the beginning....the athlon is the now, AMD is the future!!

p.s. i wouldn't sell a celleron to a monkey named bo-bo!


[This message has been edited by signal2112 (edited 06-20-2000).]
 
Since you are all on the subject of chipsets and processors. Heres another strike against AMD. Digi 001 with Pro Tools Le Known Incompatibilities are:
AMD K6, K6-2, K6-III processors
VIA chipset based mobos.
 
I was talking to friend today and he told me the compatibility problem for the amd k6-2
and the gina/delta44,66 cards is just a matter of a patch for the via chipset??
 
I have a K6-2 also (although not for long) and I've had some compatibility issues ... Event will tell you to run away as fast as you can from a K6-2...MidiMan wasn't much more flattering. I don't know where you got your info about AMD cornering the market... that's far from the truth. I'm glad your K6-2 is working out for you, but I couldn't honestly recommend one to someone else.

P.S. You don't have to worry about selling Celerons to monkeys, there's LOTS of humans lining up to buy them :) (I like the PIII's better though).
 
My AMD 500 wont even pull 12 tracks in Vegas pro... It sucks.
In fact it wont run 3D games worth a shit, either.
I'll stay with Intel from now on...
 
Yes not only does it blow hard ass for recording BUT it also has problems with the following games that (I) know of Halflife, Unreal, Everquest and most online games. I am sorry but go into a search engine and type amd problems and you can read for days. AMD blows and everybody knows it. Its not Events problem to revamp anything for the way minority of PC users.

Run forest run
 
I don't know what I'm doing right but I have an AMD K6 400 MHz with a GINA running Vegas and I get 30 tracks running all the time with NO problems at all.
 
I have no problem at all running unreal, halflife.....anything! you name it!
these games run smooth as silk on my AMD k6-2.
nor do my friends have any problems with games who have an AMD.
I don't think there was much to that whole thing that intell could handle 3d graphics better......cuse i just don't see it???
 
The only reason I can see these sound card companies not making compatable cards is that they're not good enough. its not the chipset per'se, it's the 200 mhz bus speed. If these chicken shit companies would make Athlon compatable cards, every latency problem could be solved, it took a couple of months before any motherboard manufacturers would make Athlon compatable boards. Asus didn't even put they're name on the first Athlon board they made, They were being muscled by Intel, so they went underground and made a "white box" board for Athlon, the rest as they say "is history" I say it's the future. I have my own thread going on this subject somewhere around here.

Rich
 
Camm, I have 4 computers. Three PCs and the G4. The G4 is the newest (had it for 6 months).
 
P.S.

I am using k6-3 450 with a soundblaster live platnum. no problems except for a little delay when moving volume sliders and setting effects up. No compatabillity problems. Anti AMD peaple and companies piss me off.

Rich
 
Well, anti-AMD people should not piss you off, AMD should piss you off. Most anti-AMD people, including myself, have owned or do own an AMD system.

For business applications the K6 series processor is great. It gets the job done as well or better than a comparable Intel processor.

But it lacks FPU power. That's not hearsay, it's a well known fact. Compensating with a massive cache of course doesn't help with realtime processing either.

First we can talk about games. I have an AMD K6-2 400Mhz system w/128MB and a Voodoo3 2000 AGP card. I also have an Intel Celeron 400Mhz with 128MB (well actually it has 160 now but that's a recent change) and a CL TNT 16MB AGP card. While the AMD appears to run games well enough, it's just over half the speed of the Celeron. I used to use Quake2 for benchmarking and my celeron machine would do it at roughly 60fps, while the AMD system (with Q2 3DNow! drivers) would only do 38-40. That's a substantial difference. We typically call a monitor doing 60hz as "flicker free", in that the eye cannot detect the refresh...and a game doing 60FPS appears so much smoother than a game doing 40FPS it's hard to explain. It also means that there's that much more power available during portions of the game where things start to bog down. You can usually drop down to 26FPS without completely losing control.

Now lets consider multitracking. I didn't have too much trouble with RAW tracks on my AMD K6-2 400Mhz system. I was able to do many bare tracks...which makes sense because using proper bus mastering drivers and DMA hardware, drive access requires minimal CPU support. The speed of the drive is more important. So where's the difference? DX effects. Maybe you're not into it but you should be. The ability to do 20-30 effects on a total of 15-20 or so tracks has made me very happy....but that's on my Celeron system. My AMD would choke out after only a few nasty effects like reverb. Not to mention that it was less responsive in the mixing console.

Both a Celeron and a K6-3 are priced well under $100. Price is not an issue. Celerons will outperform K6-2 and K6-3 processors in any realtime multimedia application.

Yes it is possible to use your existing AMD K6-2 or K6-3 system for multitracking. But do not spread rumors about the K6 series being comparable to Intel in this regard. It's narrow-minded, ignoring obvious facts, and misleading to those building a new system. I know it sucks when someone picks on the system you currently own, but it's time to buck up and get over it. It's just a computer.

Athlons are a different story, but then we're faced with incompatibility issues with certain prosumer soundcards and a some software (most notably games). The Athlon is the first really good chip that AMD has made since they split ways with Intel. Next time maybe they'll work harder on getting a decent chipset. I certainly look forward to Intel having some competition.

I've posted numerous times in this regard. Searching this newsgroup will provide you with several links to backup the claims I have made here today. The funny thing is, each time I do this I say it's going to be the last time. Where's the FAQ when we need it?? :)

Slackmaster 2000
 
what you you guy's think of the new AMD DURON
processor?
It will have on board cache and preforms far better than the celeron in evry benchmark i've seen on the net.
I read these are shipping out soon, and will be cheap?
what do you guys think about this???????

[This message has been edited by signal2112 (edited 06-25-2000).]
 
signal2112, check out the article titled "Roll your own 2000" at www.prorec.com. This pretty much puts the Intel vs AMD thing to bed.

In case you want a summary, the author Pete, covers why the AMD is not the best chip for DAW work. Part of the reason is the Mother- board requirements for the AMD which lead to poor memory performance. Also, there is an internal instruction set on the Intel chips including Celeron that the software companies are writing to. I checked with Cakewalk to verify and they confirmed that they were using the SIMD language in their software. This will make things naturally run faster on Intel.

Where I have seen this most prevalent is with the number of track effects as Slackmaster2K already pointed. The Intel can handle more directx and VST plug-ins at the same Mhz rating. AMD is also killer on compatability for a variety of sound cards.

Within a year these bugs will be worked out and I imagine that this time next year AMD will be at parity if they include the SIMD instruction set. If not, then I would have to lean heavily toward Intel for future work.

All this said, don't get lost in the "My system is the best" ratrace. If your system does what you need in the way of getting the sound you want -- Mission accomplished.
 
signa2112 Slacks right in what he is saying....in ALL Quotes and this one :D

>Athlons are a different story, but then we're faced with incompatibility issues with certain prosumer soundcards and a some software (most notably games). The Athlon is the first really good chip that AMD has made since they split ways with Intel. Next time maybe they'll work harder on getting a decent chipset. I certainly look forward to Intel having some competition.

As for the Tech Guys in some of these Helpdesk companies half of them wouldnt know what there on about. (IE Event and Guillemot...)

Apparently these two Manufacturers cards wont run with the a VIA Chipset in the Althlon...Rubbish! thats how much they know.

Stay Away From the VIA thay say Stay Away.. HA .....what would I know though I've only built 400 odd systems....

All I can say is Get Rid of the Games and build the Comp for Audio.....THE moral of the story is...Your not going to know what Chipset is going to work until you try it :)


Tony
 
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