Will Analog Multitracks ever be made again?

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Will Analog Multitracks ever be made again?


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Personally I have no interest in using a computer as a creative tool
In a way, for me this has been the definitive statement on this thread. Whatever floats a person's boat, we are all simply using a tool.....creatively. All considerations apart, we are just users of a tool - whatever that tool may be.
 
Beck,
I own an original Teac A3340,s which worked flawlessly for years. I had it rebiased to +3db and once had a static prone pot replaced. when i went digital i only used it for tape,(slap back echo) effects and now it has ceased working. the transport mechanism slows down and stops after some irritating squeel. You said that these old consumer analog decks are easy to repair. where can i get mine fixed? i'd love to have it working again. thanks
 
Beck,
I own an original Teac A3340,s which worked flawlessly for years. I had it rebiased to +3db and once had a static prone pot replaced. when i went digital i only used it for tape,(slap back echo) effects and now it has ceased working. the transport mechanism slows down and stops after some irritating squeel. You said that these old consumer analog decks are easy to repair. where can i get mine fixed? i'd love to have it working again. thanks


What tape was on the machine? Those sound like classic symptoms of a tape gone sticky.

Cheers,

Otto
 
Beck,
I own an original Teac A3340,s which worked flawlessly for years. I had it rebiased to +3db and once had a static prone pot replaced. when i went digital i only used it for tape,(slap back echo) effects and now it has ceased working. the transport mechanism slows down and stops after some irritating squeel. You said that these old consumer analog decks are easy to repair. where can i get mine fixed? i'd love to have it working again. thanks

What tape was on the machine? Those sound like classic symptoms of a tape gone sticky. Cheers, Otto
yep. thoroughly clean the heads and guides with isopropyl alcohol on q-tips. and keep them spotless. usually helps.
with older tapes, it needs to be done very frequently.
i clean after every tape play/pass. sometimes even in the middle of a tape play/pass, even more than once.
 
And Otto is talking about sticky tape that no matter what you do it will grab and stick to the path, squeal and drag the system to a halt...

+1,000,000 to the question: what tape are you using?
 
And Otto is talking about sticky tape that no matter what you do it will grab and stick to the path, squeal and drag the system to a halt...
true dat.

i gotta bad habit. i like all the music on my old tapes, even those tapes with bad 'SSS'. and i insist on playing them.
so i refuse to dump those bad tapes if they got good tunage on them.
so i play them anyway and have accepted that i'll just have to constantly clean the heads/guides/etc if i want said tunes to sound their best.

some of the absolutely best sounding r2r tape i ever ran into was 'audiotape' formula 15 (orange coloring on box). i used them from 1973 til '75. imo, this stuff sounded better on my sony 277-4 and a teac 4010 than maxells or whatever else i could get ahold of back then.
but 36 yrs later, we're talking MAJOR 'SSS'! :(

when i went to play my quad version of 'the sound of music' (on said form. 15) last month, it still sounds really great but i had to stop and clean about every 15 mins.
a minor hassle but worth it once in a while.

i have about 6-7 other quad albums on this tape but play them rarely.
i don't wanna put too much stress on these old motors so i don't listen to those tapes very often.
 
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why should one change ?

i gotta bad habit. I like all the music on my old tapes, even those tapes with bad 'sss'. And i insist on playing them.
So i refuse to dump those bad tapes if they got good tunage on them.
So i play them anyway and have accepted that i'll just have to constantly clean the heads/guides/etc if i want said tunes to sound their best.

Some of the absolutely best sounding r2r tape i ever ran into was 'audiotape' formula 15 (orange coloring on box). I used them from 1973 til '75. Imo, this stuff sounded better on my sony 277-4 and a teac 4010 than maxells or whatever else i could get ahold of back then.
But 36 yrs later, we're talking major 'sss'! :(

when i went to play my quad version of 'the sound of music' (on said form. 15) last month, it still sound really great but i had to stop and clean about every 15 mins.
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um, are we supposed to understand that? :confused:

yes you are. grimtraveller asked why someone SHOULD change, or get away from tape-based recorders, and you pointed out what a giant pain in the ass it is. i realize you haven't actually admitted that to yourself yet, but having to wipe the heads down after every 15 minutes of playback IS a giant pain in the ass.
 
yes you are. grimtraveller asked why someone SHOULD change, or get away from tape-based recorders, and you pointed out what a giant pain in the ass it is. i realize you haven't actually admitted that to yourself yet, but having to wipe the heads down after every 15 minutes of playback IS a giant pain in the ass.

At Least the tape will still play unlike a scratched cd that might play or skip or just do nothing at all.
 
yes you are. grimtraveller asked why someone SHOULD change, or get away from tape-based recorders, and you pointed out what a giant pain in the ass it is. i realize you haven't actually admitted that to yourself yet, but having to wipe the heads down after every 15 minutes of playback IS a giant pain in the ass.
EZ, my friend, my pal :). i've been into r2rs for 36+ years (had my own commercial recording studio back in the '80s). i am also into cd, dvds, blu ray, the list goes on and on...
i never said it's a giant PITA. a minor one maybe, but worth it, imo. i love the sound (cds are just as good-but so are cassettes, on my nakamichi decks)(edit-blu ray audio is better), i love watching the reels turn and turn and turn and turn...

in short, it's my cuppa.

and thanks for your concern. :D
 
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I wanna start a new poll about whether or not anybody is going to develop a multitrack wire recorder...it'd have to be helical scan...that'd be AWESOME. Ooooooo...wax cylinder multitracker...:eek:...oh MAN!!!
 
yes you are. grimtraveller asked why someone SHOULD change, or get away from tape-based recorders, and you pointed out what a giant pain in the ass it is. i realize you haven't actually admitted that to yourself yet, but having to wipe the heads down after every 15 minutes of playback IS a giant pain in the ass.
My original thought of "Why should a person change" was more of a 'If someone is happy with what they've got why should they change just coz of the social pressure to do so' kind of thingy. Then I read your post there, Westgate, and my immediate thought was 'man, he's good coz if I had to keep cleaning my heads every 15 minutes, I'd be typing in "Ebay" or flinging the thing in the bin, retro antique or not !'. That said, I respect what a person wants to do. All my albums are on cassette coz that's what I prefer to play.....but they're on CD too. So when the tape dies I can just rerecord them. I remember the years of anxiety when some of the Lps I had were only on cassette and the vinyl had been long since deleted and I wasn't going to pay the equivalent of $780 for one in the collectors world of overprice. I was a relieved bloke once recordable CDs came out !!
 
My original thought of "Why should a person change" was more of a 'If someone is happy with what they've got why should they change just coz of the social pressure to do so' kind of thingy.

Then I read your post there, Westgate, and my immediate thought was 'man, he's good coz if I had to keep cleaning my heads every 15 minutes, I'd be typing in "Ebay" or flinging the thing in the bin, retro antique or not !'. That said, I respect what a person wants to do. All my albums are on cassette coz that's what I prefer to play.....but they're on CD too. So when the tape dies I can just rerecord them.

I remember the years of anxiety when some of the Lps I had were only on cassette and the vinyl had been long since deleted and I wasn't going to pay the equivalent of $780 for one in the collectors world of overprice. I was a relieved bloke once recordable CDs came out !!
LOL!
1-i feel no 'social pressure' to do anything.
2-i don't play those sticky shed tapes very often, maybe once or twice a year. so it's not a problem.
if i had to do it every day then it would be a problem.
 
hopefully it doesn't. it's worthless next to todays technology.. and god the gear is awful.

analog is dead and the thought of it should be burried and burned all together. :p
 
hopefully it does. it's very valuable next to todays technology.. and god the gear is great!

analog lives and we should rejoice at the thought of it together! :p
what he said! :D
 
1-i feel no 'social pressure' to do anything.
Granted, but some people do. They may not succumb to it and some may not even be aware of it but it's often there. If you never recycle but you sit in a room full of recyclers going on about the planet and what scumbags non-recyclers are, there's a social pressure there to 'mend your ways'. Groups that are very vocal about whatever they're for create a social pressure. Whether wittingly or not. Almost by osmosis. Kids are terrible for that-"You mean you don't even have a playstation !?"- and the adult world is no different, just a little more sophisticated and a little easier to swim against the tide. I'm in general agreement with you doing what you're happy doing.
 
What tape was on the machine? Those sound like classic symptoms of a tape gone sticky.

Cheers,

Otto

Yeah, I've heard that before but I always kept the transport clean and used the best, available tape(Scotch/3M966). I can find no evidence of "stickey tape syndrome". I believe it is simply a problem with the reel,transport tension cause when it starts to happen, if i put my finger on the ,(sorry i don't know the technical name) i'll call it the tension arm (?) then the reels start up again. Is this something that is just out of adjustment like brake pads?
 
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