Why not Soundblaster?

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holy shit your names joe and your from lowell and u have ur own studio, my names joe and im from lowell and i have my own studio.. freaky.. yea mix could definately be better its far from Par becuase of my lack of mixing skills.. Ill get there one day though.. enjoy..

www.bostonskylinestudios.com place is simply put, soooo nice...
 
Thirst said:
. yea mix could definately be better its far from Par becuase of my lack of mixing skills.. Ill get there one day though.. enjoy..


I did like it man...and I usually don't...

and what you say about your skills is the number one reason that you should listen to Bruce and the rest of the fellas here....

Check out Evo's and Capo's on Middle street man...some good music going down on Middle street..
Joe
 
you talking about them little clubs or pubs downtown? I never knew they did that, I mean I have seen some people walking with music equipment and things over there but which places?
 
Just FYI, I really enjoyed that track too Thirst - you've got some serious talent there wit' da rhymes!

Seriously dude, listen to these guys with an open mind - you're gonna go far but every bit of experienced advice is gold.
 
I really do accept the fact that alot of the guys and girls at this board do know alot more then me, I was just stating that you can have equally good results with a sound blaster card, and I got flamed by a jerk for it, HE broke down my whole post for no reason, I wasnt stating soundblaster was the best, but for the money it is, thats all I was stating and I got agravated that I was flamed for it.. Anyway Thanks alot man im glad you enjoyed it.. enjoy
 
Thirst said:
I really do accept the fact that alot of the guys and girls at this board do know alot more then me, I was just stating that you can have equally good results with a sound blaster card

Well, don't "state" what you don't know. Especially on a newb forum.

Thirst said:
I got flamed by a jerk for it, HE broke down my whole post for no reason

No reason:

Thirst said:
I wasnt stating soundblaster was the best, but for the money it is, thats all I was stating and I got agravated that I was flamed for it..

That's a dumb thing to say. It's not the best, not for the money, not at all.
 
mallcore pop said:
Well, don't "state" what you don't know. Especially on a newb forum.



No reason:



That's a dumb thing to say. It's not the best, not for the money, not at all.


^ I stated the TRUTHE, thats what i stated, i know what i know, and what i stated was completely true as far as cost goes.. Im willin to compare a mix that ill do right now to all ur pro tools or any other setups u have with your 500-1500.00 sound cards and i guarentee, price to quality ratio ill blow u out the water...

another one lol, dude ... lol... for the money you wont find a better soundcard nope, show me one.. seriously for the all around value show me one, YOU jus broke down my post cuz you envy me too i guess, im not gonna get agravated no more, im gonna take it as a compliment cuz thats what it is.. thanks

anytime any of you people that pop off at the mouth are willing too, just make the thread, you can post yours and ill post mines.. I mean you people clown others that truthefully dont know as much as you on the technical side but it gives you no right to tell someone they dont know what there talking about, yes youve been doin it alot longer and have a vast amount of knowledge but dont think becuz of that you can boss people around or tell them their wrong when in fact there not.. So lets go any of you engineer guru's with 1000.00 mic pre amps I will take me my nice computer and my shitty soundblaster card n compare it to your quality ok, and shit i aint even that good of a mixer but ima be happy proving you wrong in the aspect that you DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND ALOT to get good results.. shit i wont even have my engineer master it.. I ask a question about a school n for some reason you people think im new to this shit, rediculous.. simply put rediculous..
 
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Two things....

First, I too thought that 24/96 converters put together by Creative Labs were every bit as good as the 24/96 converters put together by Apogee.... I mean, the numbers are the same, it's a computer, how much difference can there be??

Tons. I know better now.

Second, To all of those who have been flamed by 'Thirst' and those of a similiar nature, and who, exercising maturity and restraint, have not responded to their profanity and condemnation in kind, kudos. It's your knowledge and maturity that keep this board a great place to bum around and learn.
 
ummm.. why dont you look in every post I have posted here wheelma, In everyone I was asking a question and I got negative feedback in everyone.. I mean its probably becuz I do rap music that Im brushed off or just people assume I know nothing about recording or mixing.. Every post I enter theres jerks laying around, bluebear got no right attackin me and neither does the other ding dong so ima write back as much as I can to defend why im right like anyone else would.. I stated I would compare my tracks to yours, your good d/a a/d converters compared to my shitty soundblaster ones.... any takers?
 
Thirst,

I took the time (not exactly a scarce commodity for me until next year it is true) to show you exactly how many FullSail graduates the school boasted of working in the recording industry. I took the time, and interest, to explain to you that a J.C. could give you just as much as FullSail in education, leaving your loans intact for a Bachelors degree and your money intact for your own gear. Look what I got back.
.... posted by Thirst
why dont you look in every post I have posted here wheelma, In everyone I was asking a question and I got negative feedback in everyone
I have absolutely no interest in trying to find your other posts. If you are getting blowback regardless of where you go and who you talk to and can't figure out where the problem lies, then you have deeper issues than those related to sound recording.

I have read some posts that followed your disclosure of being a rap artist and what I remember was courtesy and a willingness to invite you over to check out a member's studio in Boston.

And what I remember about Blue Bear is a willingness to continue to impart advice even after you telling him to 'fuck off', and calling him 'asshole'.
 
^ yea did you happen to read why i told him that, If anyone else broke down anyone else's post trying to label them a moron id expect the poster to tell him to " fuck off " too.. You told me how many people are employed but it didnt really matter to me becuz I mean theres no real way of that information being real or fake, it would have to be the students discression to tell the school or threw the schools job placement program tha they would have knowledge of that.. Anyway that not being the topic Im glad I was enlightened by this board about school and I will continue to be as I read and post here as i do like most of the guys that record here.. But when you openly attack me please accept I will defend myself, Its true my knowledge is not in depth as a mastering engineer or a sound engineer period but that doesnt mean I dont know what i am talking about, a soundblaster card is well worth 200.00 to record and can turn out professional projects.. weither you are aware of which soundblaster card im referring too im not sure of but, I do know what I know, and when someone try's to come into a forum flame me with utter bullshit n then quotes every line of my post to try and make a point that has no meaning it will get me mad.. I mean thats common sence stuff i think.. Im plainly stating a soundblaster is definately worth the 200.00 it costs as long as u only need 1 input, anyone who says otherwise is either someone who hasnt used this card, or has enough to buy a card that would surpass this one in quality...
 
AN M-Audio Audiophile 2496 is under $200 and will blow an SB card away in terms of quality...

....so much for your "truth".......

:rolleyes:


You've got a lot to learn Thirsty-rookie... and with the attitude I've seen from you so far - I wouldn't give you a job cleaning the studio toilets.... whatever education you get for yourself, I suggest you throw-in an attitude-adjustment program along with it........
 
... posted by Thirst
yea did you happen to read why i told him that, If anyone else broke down anyone else's post trying to label them a moron id expect the poster to tell him to " fuck off " too..
I use quotes to make sure that my comments are taken in the proper context.
told me how many people are employed but it didnt really matter to me becuz I mean theres no real way of that information being real or fake, it would have to be the students discression to tell the school or threw the schools job placement program tha they would have knowledge of that..
You challenged me to go to the web site to prove to me what excellent career oppoturnities await FullSail graduates. In doing so I didn't prove your point, I proved mine.
now your willing to bet on something you know nothing about.. WHY DONT U GO ON THERE WEBSITE and look at where the students are working.. with a total attendance of 2800 kids im sure ones from the RA degree arent hard to find, n where do u get off saying something like that? You have no idea, you couldnt fathom what happens to those kids when they get out, maybe some decide they dont want to do that for there live, and some others might just give up due to personal reasons, but where do u get off saying there students dont do nothing with what there taught? your full of shit pal
Even in the best year, '02 graduates, FullSail could boast of less than 10% of the graduating RA class working in the field that they devoted $40,000 odd dollars and however many months of their lives to. Yet your response is to dismiss the results as irrevelant when they no longer support your position...
when you openly attack me please accept I will defend myself...
If we all adopted that position this board would quickly break down into profane vitriol. I was hard pressed to remain civil with your responses to me. Let's see....
  • your full of shit pal
  • thats like my saying becuz i think your an asshole...
  • ill bet your kids will be drunks bums n prostitutes when they grow up..
  • man I have more maturity in my left nut then you got in your body
I tend to only pass on the recomendations of others as my experience in audio recording is, I am sure, less than yours. But I have learned so much that I want to pass on what knowledge I feel compentent to pass on, such as I did, to my distress, with you.

I felt then, and I feel now, that you are only interested in hearing from Yes men. That you have no interest in honest advice. That the people on this board are throwing pearls that you do not want.

Hope you find wealth and happiness. Hope I do too.
 
Well said wheelema and Thirst didn't you ever hear?

DONT FEEDS THE BEARS!!!
 
I'm not sure why I bother, but here goes...

Thirst, you seem to have a complete inability to engage in intellectual debate. Were you to actually read most (but not all) of the posts that respond to yours, they spend time dissecting your reasoning. Yet, you insist on taking these as personal affronts. No one here is attacking you personally, which does not apply when it comes to your attitude towards us.

What they are saying is that your inexperience is leading you to believe that your SB card is the greatest thing that can be had for the money. I'm afraid you are misled, as has been pointed out by many on the board thus far.


I'll say it one more time:

An M-Audio Audiophile 2496 is a far better sound card for recording than any Creative Labs product. It has better converters, and lower latency. And it can be had for around $150 from many places.
 
I am not going to read the posts before quoting me again this is beginning to look like a media interview and i am the star... But I will say if you " THINK " that card is better becuz of its converters then why not post an example of it and ill post an example of my not so good soundblaster card.. I mean its pretty fair to say thats an even and adult type of way to settle it rather then taking the time to quote all of your posts.. I mean if in fact that sound card is better it will really blow mines away in sound so lets let the people decide right.. Im not gonna say something just to say it, you can quote that too :).. with your better converters and your lower latency we'll see how much better it sounds, that sounds pretty straight to me... And I stated for overall value, meaning for having 1 input, it also has a fire wire input, misc 1/8 jack inputs for surround sound, fiber optics in/out, spif l/f, coaxial cable, midi inputs, is THX certified as well as it comes with a pretty good software program, overall an M audio does not beat that, read my post before, overall I stated, weither you looked over it or not its in there.. But seriously If you guys are right then your right im the one thats gonna byte the bullet, Quote that too :).. I seriously dont think your gonna produce a better sound without having a much better upgraded of a soundcard.. Who makes SB's converters anyway? how do you know there shitty? And how do you figure an Maudio has a lower latency then the soundblaster card? If possible id like to read it jus to take in a little bit more knowledge.. But anyways like ive stated everyone in the world will respond breaking down my posts and trying to make it seem like im the one in the wrong and i have an attitude but no one will take a sample of there music and let me take a sample of my music and compare them.. why not? List your setup ill list and take pictures of my setup and Lets compare them for shits and giggles, jus for fun.. Where im from I have to have an attitude to live, my attitude is what drives me to learn and " try " to be the best.. Like it or not you can all tell me ive got the problem but IF YOU read the post's I never started, maybe the fullsail thing becuz of the comments that were said a while ago that I found but nothing else..

On the non bologne side of things I went to barnes n nobles last night and picked up 2 books, tried to get art of mastering by Bob Katz but it wasnt in, i supposed ill order it, but I did buy Behind the Glass and Sound Reinforcement handbook, both were kinda high priced but they look like they contain alot of knowledge in them. Enjoy and have a nice time quoting my post again lol..
 
wheelema said:
I use quotes to make sure that my comments are taken in the proper context.

You challenged me to go to the web site to prove to me what excellent career oppoturnities await FullSail graduates. In doing so I didn't prove your point, I proved mine.

Even in the best year, '02 graduates, FullSail could boast of less than 10% of the graduating RA class working in the field that they devoted $40,000 odd dollars and however many months of their lives to. Yet your response is to dismiss the results as irrevelant when they no longer support your position...



I tend to only pass on the recomendations of others as my experience in audio recording is, I am sure, less than yours. But I have learned so much that I want to pass on what knowledge I feel compentent to pass on, such as I did, to my distress, with you.

I felt then, and I feel now, that you are only interested in hearing from Yes men. That you have no interest in honest advice. That the people on this board are throwing pearls that you do not want.

Hope you find wealth and happiness. Hope I do too.

NO bob, I am not interested in yes men, Im interested in TRUTHE..

even in the best year at full sail they still wouldnt know what there students are doing if the students themselves never told them, go to a highschool and ask how many students went on to get jobs, SHIT they wouldnt know in my highschool we had over 4200 kids and not a big school either... The only thing a highschool knows is if the student went to college or a trade school.. Your talkin nonsence, now if im offending i apologize but there would be no way to track a student that graduates unless the school was like TUFTS university here in boston where it costs 60k a semester and they have a total of like 800 students.. places like that would be able to keep track of them.. Its on the students discression...


" You challenged me to go to the web site to prove to me what excellent career oppoturnities await FullSail graduates. In doing so I didn't prove your point, I proved mine. "

umm..right.. if you read my posts I very much did, I just didnt take the time out to break down your posts like you had so generously did for me.. I proved that school is state of the art, world renowned, and worth it for anyone whos willing to put in 150% in like any other type of school.. You get out of it what you put in, if you really look at it you dont have to go to school for anything except for like being a lawyer or a doctor, u have to go to school for those careers, I mean I could read a thousand books on open heart surgeory n be mr fixit with hearts but they are not going to let me into the ER without a PHD now will they? same with not passing the bar @ law school... NOW.. if I wanted to be a business man i could read 5 books and start my own business, or a cook, I could jus read books and master it myself as Ive done with other things.. BUT, when in fact you do apply for the job and you tell them yes you are familiar with this, this and this.. what happens when the other person says yes im familiar with this, this and this and has a BA in that category.. Do you really think they will even consider you? I called 5 studios up and asked them about it Cuz Im not willing to pay 34k for something I can learn on my own, which in turn I will probably not go to fullsail now but it doesnt mean it wouldnt help me out alot, Ive seen the wages sound engineers make and without being in there for 10-15 years they make shit money, So ill have to choose another career path probably business and create my own studio.. But this subject is jus like anything else, school helps no matter which way u slice, all the people that went to fullsail and arent working in the industry now is becuz they are WEAK, they didnt put enough passion into learning it, and they gave up.. Much like they probably will do with the rest of the things in there life, Becuz If I spent 34k on school best believe Im reading every book I get and then some, weither the school is good or not id just make good of there studio equipment and such.. enjoy..


QUOTE MEEEEEEE
 
"An M-Audio Audiophile 2496 is a far better sound card for recording than any Creative Labs product. It has better converters, and lower latency. And it can be had for around $150 from many places."

I was using a SB PC128 soundcard and upgraded to a M-Audio Audiophile 24/96. Best thing I ever did for listening to AND recording music. At $150, there's no reason not to use one (unless you are going higher-end of course). Unless you are using a mic with a 1/8" adapter permanently attached to it....
 
Thirst said:
....have a nice time quoting my post again lol..
No point -- you've already proven yourself to be something pretty close to thick-headed, so i for one, am not going to bother trying to educate you any further...... you'll have to pay your $40K at Full Sail to be shown how dense you're being, rather than learning it for free at this site........

:rolleyes:
 
I am learning it for free if you would have read the post youd see i said I wasnt going to go to fullsail.. i bought 2 of the books YOUU have listed on your site as my first attempt towards understanding more and improving my knowledge.. Youd see what books I got also.. Also youd see I didnt choose to go that route after I talked to alot of people at this board, So in that aspect of fullsail I have yall to thank for saving me alot of money and hardship, ive never been able to decide on school cuz Ive never wanted to pay anyone for somethiing I can learn myself, I thought the school was more then i guess what it actually is, again. I thank the people at this site for showing me that. BUTTT.. It doesnt mean im thick headed cuz I like my SB card, Im going to post something I got a nasty cold but oh well this is what i just just threw together like 15 minutes ago..

http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=787442&q=Hi

dont mind the dude at the beginning hes jus someone that was on there, now this was jus done to show u tha quality of the soundcard RAW, no outboard compressor, no nothing done to it at all..

Its me freestylin/writing a bit for yall, now the only thing done to these vocals are a bit of compression 4:1 and my personal reverb setting which isnt very much, I mean I didnt even adjust the volums or anything so.. now cmon with no equing or anything this doesnt sound good or would sound better with an m audio? hmmmm.....


Ps: lmao Im mad sick right now, recovering from the flu so I sound kinda funny, and dont think thats the type of music I do i jus did it real fast... Dont mind the prefanity lol.. im really a nice guy, enjoy fellas
 
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