Who's in on this with me?

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I have a business idea I would like to propose to anyone with the will and the means to participate:

I'm assuming you're familiar with the whole "Boston Pre Party" CD, as well as the 3-D Audio deal. If not, here's some links for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.tangible-technology.com/microphones/pre.html

http://www.3daudioinc.com/3daudio_prelp.html

In an earlier thread, I mentioned that an accurate evaluation and comparison of any mic pres simply is not possible without hearing it's effect on several tracks, using the same instruments same mics, and talent in the same facilities on the same day etc. etc.

This type of thing woud be very easy for me to arrange. The next time I get a solo artist in here recording track-by-track, I'll tell him about my experiment, and give him/her a break on the price for participating. I'll just have them do several different takes, as I usually do anyway, but after each take, I'll just yank the mic chord and plug it in to a different pre.

How easy is that?

If anyone else would be willing to do the same thing, we could perhpas assemble ourselves a mini-compilation CD, sell it for money, and do any of the following with the proceeds:

* Donate to charity
* Donate to Dragon for maintaing this site for us.
* Be greedy and keep profits. :D

Initially, my only concern is that if I was comparing, say, a Joemeek with an AudioUpgrades with a Mindprint . . . and Ozraves does one comparing an RNP with a Sytek with a Grace, it wouldn't be valid to compare his Grace example with my Audio Upgrades example, for instance, for obvious reasons.

But the listener would still benefit, obviously, from what would easily be the best possible comparison he/she has heard yet between the Grace/RNP/Sytek, as an example.

In other words, it still wouldn't be perfect, but it would be MUCH more useful than anything else short of trying them out ourselves. Most importantly, the listener would be hearing real-world comparisons of budget pres and non-budget pres.
 
Ozraves,

I would be very interested in helping out. I record several different artists and play a lot of instruments as well. The idea is really sound. Most folks dont/cant buy tons of preamps, but just a couple to record all their instrumentation. We need to hear what a whole mix sounds like through a pre. Let me know if I can help.


Thanks,
Justin
 
<In an earlier thread, I mentioned that an accurate evaluation and comparison of any mic pres simply is not possible without hearing it's effect on several tracks, using the same instruments same mics, and talent in the same facilities on the same day etc. etc. >

Chessrock, do you want to do all the tracks of a project with each pre to look for their accumulative effect in identical mixes?

<This type of thing woud be very easy for me to arrange. The next time I get a solo artist in here recording track-by-track, I'll tell him about my experiment, and give him/her a break on the price for participating. I'll just have them do several different takes, as I usually do anyway, but after each take, I'll just yank the mic chord and plug it in to a different pre. >

Where I had the most problem with the Pre Party CD and this method, was a large part of the differences were due to performance variations from take to take. I think I'd rather take the down-side of having the signal split to two pre's (slightly different loading effect) but have that variable removed.
But Tubedude did make a strong case for going for the 'stacking' effect.
Thanks.
Wayne
 
Great idea, Chessrock.

Id be more into comparing stacked tracks of guitar, drums and vocals though. Figure on a minute or less.

Thats the true test of a pre.

I got the RNP btw and its a beast. All the sibilance I was having with my rode mics is gone. On the other hand, that sparkle and extra bite is gone too. The sound is tight, defined and ballsy. The sm57 stops on a dime and sounds really punchy. Everything has deeper lows and a better sense of space. Im still deciding where exactly it fits on the food chain. Ive used it on guitars, drums, and vocals. Aside from being a great sounding pre the biggest advantage Ive seen so far is that it doesnt discriminate between mics. All mics are equal. Its not hypersensitive to a mic with too much top or upper mid.
 
JuSumPilgrim, That sounds like a substantial change. What pre were you comparing it to if I may ask?
Thanks.
Wayne
 
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