where to get a 1kHz line-up oscillator from

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thats what i keep sayin. then how do u get the sine wav to show up on the software meters. and then what do i turn up or down the windows analog mix? are u familiar with the sound blaster sound card recording options? the recording options are midi synth, what u hear, analog mix, mic, and wave. now which one do i need to select to make the sine wave appear in my sound forge meters so i can see the where the sine wave is marking and then increase it to -12db. do u get what im sayin lol
 
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DING DING DING! Farview has been knocked out by the contendor!

Is there another who is bold enough to stand up to the newbies ferocity!!!!
 
djclueveli said:
thats what i keep sayin. then how do u get the sine wav to show up on the software meters. and then what do i turn up or down the windows analog mix? are u familiar with the sound blaster sound card recording options? the recording options are midi synth, what u hear, analog mix, mic, and wave. now which one do i need to select to make the sine wave appear in my sound forge meters so i can see the where the sine wave is marking and then increase it to -12db. do u get what im sayin lol
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The software meters have nothing to do with it. Just play the sine wave out of the computer, into the mixer. You need to pay attention to the meters on the mixer and the meters on the DAT machine. Since you have a soundblaster, your software meters are going to be useless.
 
I jus record straight into my computer. i dont use a DAT (unless a hardrive is considered as a DAT) so where would i go to on my computer to see the sine wave and adjust accordinly
 
TexRoadkill said:
The last thing you need to be worrying about right now is level calibration.
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......because you need to learn how to drive the car before you worry about setting the dwell and timing perfectly. It's great that you care to set this up right, but learn how your signal flow works before you start trying to calibrate it.
 
i understand that but i had this gear for a year n half and i need to elevate how i'm usin it and not just stick at the place
 
Calibrating one's audio system is one of the best things a person can do, in my opinion. Just the process of sorting through how to do it is an education in itself. There's no doubt in my mind that a properly matched setup will sound better than one where the levels are all over the place from one piece of gear to the next.

What I use is an Ebtech Swizz Army cable tester, which also has a 1khz tone. The tone can be set to volumes of +4, -10, and -50. Having the tone be generated by a unit outside the realm of the DAW is very handy. You can then go from unit to unit with the test tone and not worry about all those variables that come into play when routing audio here and there throughout a DAW. There are so many places it can go wrong.

I also bought a test tone CD on eBay for $12 a while back. It was money well spent, because it has a bunch of other tests to run on your system as well. It does help tune up an audio system. Do an eBay search for "pro audio test cd", or "audio test cd".

If you are serious about this I suggest a test tone generator, which are often a feature on cable testers. You should have a cable tester anyway. Or give that test tone cd a try.
 
djclueveli said:
i understand that but i had this gear for a year n half and i need to elevate how i'm usin it and not just stick at the place
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Great. I didn't mean to disuade you, just to help you set your priorities. I think you should really understand the signal flow of your recording setup before you attempt to calibrate it.
 
djclueveli said:
i'm tryna to calibrate my DAT with my mixer so where to i find a 1kHz line-up oscillator? and how do i hook it up and perform test?
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If you don't have a DAT, what is this about.
djclueveli said:
i was trying to calibrate my DAT so when it reaches 0 my mixer reaches +12dbu. i read it from http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr98/articles/gainstructure.html

"If you set up a 1kHz line-up oscillator on your mixer and adjust its level to exactly 0VU on the mixer output meters, you can go into Record Monitor mode on your DAT machine, and then slowly increase its input level control until this -12dB mark is reached. (Due to the large gaps between calibration marks on a DAT, looking at the Margin readout is a far more accurate way to do this, as it normally changes in much smaller increments, such as 0.5dB.) At this point, where 0dB VU as indicated by the mixer is equal to -12dB relative to Full Scale on the DAT meter (0VU = -12dBFS), you've calibrated your DAT machine so that mixer meters just touch the top red +12dB VU LED as the DAT machine reaches 0dB."
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And this?

If you are calibrating anything, it would be the computer inputs. Since you have a soundblaster, you can't calibrate anything.
 
I think it's worth pointing out that the SOS article that djClue is quoting dates back to 1998 and is assuming a maximum 16-bit operation, and as such does contain some stale information which I wouldn't swallow in too big of a gulp.

G.
 
DING DING DING! Farview has been knocked around by the contendor, the contendor has been knocked out!
 
dude if you dont have a DAT then WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ASKING HOW TO CALIBRATE IT!?!?!?!


ok. im sorry but it has to be done...

TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!
 
djClueveli said:
(unless a hardrive is considered as a DAT)
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And there lies the problem. You need to at least find out what a DAT is before you try to follow 9-year-old instructions on how to set the levels on one.

Recording to your computer is not the same thing as recording to a DAT. A DAT is a Digital Audio Tape recorder with entirely different input specs than what you're equipment deals in. Ignore that SOS article. It is both out of date and irrelevant to your situation.

Also, according to the other thread in which you're participating that deals with this subject, you are using a Presonus Firepod, and not a mixer into a soundcard. Over there you're trying to find out the calibration of your Firepod. Why is that not in your equipment list on this thread? What's the real deal?

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G.
 
Wow. You forgot to tell him about the furshliggener planghammer meter, FV. Can't adjust a Creative Labs product without one. You connect it to your television video output, then wire in the household blender with bananna clips. Then you lick a fork and put it into your power outlet to check for current, and don't forget to stand in a puddle of adjustment fluid while doing this. When the meter reads 12 ohms, you hook up a microphone and sing an A above high C, then paint all your windows black. A breeze...
 
One thing I do want to mention djclueveli, is that the comments about your sound blaster from various posters are also appropriate. While calibrating your system is the right thing to do, you will get limited benefits from it due to the low quality of the sound blaster card.

You seem to take this seriously, as we can see by your desire to calibrate your setup. Very few people around here even think to do that. So you are somebody that would probably really appreciate and be able to make use of, a better sound card. Something to think about anyway.
 
SonicAlbert said:
You seem to take this seriously, as we can see by your desire to calibrate your setup. Very few people around here even think to do that. So you are somebody that would probably really appreciate and be able to make use of, a better sound card. Something to think about anyway.
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He's already got a Firepod that he hasn't bothered mentioning here, Al, and he has already been involved in a thread discussing the calibration of that Firepod.

In light of that, I have no idea what this thread is even about, other than it was in the other thread that I first recommended using a 1kHz test tone, and he came here looking where to get one. The rest is all from the planet of Hunter Thompson.

G.
 
if you read my other thread u would know that ive been having problems with my firepod and i'm getting it repaired so in the mean time i put that to the side and im back to my mixer and sound blaster
 
djclueveli said:
if you read my other thread u would know that ive been having problems with my firepod and i'm getting it repaired so in the mean time i put that to the side and im back to my mixer and sound blaster
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So....What was the question again?
 
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