Where to from Logic?

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I am one of the many Windows logic users who have been completely screwed when Apple took over Emagic (not that im bitter or anything ;))
There is now way i'll be able to afford to get a Mac with enough power to run logic bucause i need a windows computer and i cant affort two computers. I'm using logic gold 4.81 for now and that should keep me going for a while but one day i'll have to get something new. Im looking for suggestions as where to go from logic. I guess Cubase is the logcal move. Will i find it to be a step down? I've messed around with cubase before and i didnt realy find it quite as profession a package as logic (no that i spend too much time with it).
Im realy only recording and mixing rock music or a acoustic songs so midi isnt a huge deal.
Any suggestions?
What will i miss out on with other packages (preferably from people who have used both logic and another program)
 
Logic sounds good but the interface really sucks. If you want to know what you will be missing you need to specify what you need. It's probably safe to say that most people don't use 80% of the features in their software.
 
logic has the nicest looking interface, and the most confusing at first. but once you get to know it its good. and it does sound the "best", if that means anything. But i hear Cubase SX is a good one. But i'd probably move to Pro Tools myself.
 
If you don't use much midi then Pro Tools is definately the way to go in regard to ease of use and audio quality.
The only draw-back is that you'll have to replace your hardware as well. PT only uses Digidesign hardware.
I would seriously look at the new Digi002 if you can swing that many dollars. If not, the Digi001 is a great package too for around $2000 aussie. I own one myself.

Mark
 
What will i miss out on with other packages (preferably from people who have used both logic and another program)
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I used Logic briefly when I first got my C-Port (LE bundled version).

I don't think you'll miss out on much. The Logic interface is fairly different than most, so you'll have a small learning curve no matter what you choose. I've been down the Cubase and Cakewalk roads and prefer Cubase (actually, Nuendo). I've also used the ProTools free version.

Like Markd102 said (kinda), if you want to keep your MIDI options open, stay away from ProTools. It's a top-notch system, but you have to use their hardware and upgrades, and wait for TDM versions of all the new plugins that keep coming out (although TDM comes out first, sometimes).

If you've already got a nice audio package (card), I'd recommend the Cubase route. IMO, it provides the most flexibility (esp. VST plugins), and the interface isn't any harder than any other to pick up. I'm sure Steinberg isn't going anywhere or abandoning it's vast PC user base.
 
Okay, Im getting ready to be flamed here for an opinion, but...

I always found cubase too damn colourful. Too many colours all over the place trying to distract me from what i really wanted to do - make music.

When I looked at logic, I was initially attracted to it, because it looked more 'sensible' and (oh god....) 'logical'...

But, I recently had a look at Nuendo, and had a play with recording a few tracks, adding effects and the mixer etc. (read: didn't play with the midi)

and I was VERY impressed. Whereas to me, Cubase looks like something someone in a bedroom studio would use, Nuendo is something I can see the Pro's using, and although i'm no Pro, I would like to work like one, and with some of the tools that they use.

Just a thought spillage (puts on asbestos fire retardent clothing)...

Cheers

R
 
Rochey said:

I always found cubase too damn colourful. Too many colours all over the place trying to distract me from what i really wanted to do - make music.

When I looked at logic, I was initially attracted to it, because it looked more 'sensible' and (oh god....) 'logical'...
R
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I couldnt agree with you more.
Ive been considering Nuendo but an article i read stated that it was aimed at the music post-production market.
How does does Cubase SX compare with Cubase and Nuendo?
There's no way i'm going to get a digi 001. Ive used one before and it was okay but there's no way i want to be limited to 24 tracks. The 002 looks okay but im planning to get a DSP card such as the universal audio and i dont realy want to be stuck with what digi design will alow my to use for hardware. The only thing that sets pro tools apart from the rest is the high end hardware which isnt a factor in the 001 or 002.
Im realy looking for something that looks and feel professional, is indepth but can be used without an indepth knowledge. Something that comes with a nice range of plug-ins and has more available (ie VST/direct X). Can be automated easily (eg hyperdraw feature in logic) and has the option for a controler surface. Midi isnt a major deal but atleast some support and the ability to run virtual intruments would be nice. Also editing audio files is important as are many other things i cant remember :)
Thanks for all the input guys and Seanmorse79 i wouldnt base much of an opinion on logic from a C-port version. I used the delta version a bit and its npwhere near the same a logic gold. Having a huge manual helps.
And Tex i would agree that i dont use alot of logics features but im learning and having a software package where you're always learing something new is a bonus i think.
 
I also forgot to mention that i find the ability to recal screen sets is realy helpful in logic. Is this something that if found in most recording programs
 
thats whats Nuendo is aimed at, but I saw a poll recently where a large percentage of the users use it for all production and not just post.

CubaseSX has basically the same audio engine as Nuendo 1.5 plus more MIDI features and a better GUI to go with it... I've seen the old GUI from cubase VST and didn't really like it.

also coming from steinberg sometime is Nuendo 2.0 that is supposed to push Nuendo back up above Cubase, since now they share the same audio engine, they are pretty equal.

also Samplitude is a wonderful program... the deal with emagic was canceled between Magix and Emagic... so there will be no v6.5 but around November we can look for a v7 that will include native ASIO/VST/VSTi support plus better MIDI engine... the audio engine in Samplitude is already superb, so I can't see it getting much better, but they say an improved audio engine is coming too.

just a few more choices you may not have been aware of
 
emagic put a lot of time and money into figuring out what colours went well together, and which combinations of colours a person could stare at for hours without going insane. On the other hand the cubase programers probably just picked random colours to brighten it up a bit.
suddle difference but a big one. First impressions count, not in my opinion.
 
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