Where is the EQ in the chain?

[CrowsofFritz]

I've always questioned but never asked, where is Cubase's EQ in the chain? I heard it's after the 6th insert, which doesn't seem to make much sense...

 

[Farview]

It's just before the fader, after all the inserts. Just like a hardware mixer.

 

[Guitargodgt]

Indeed it is as Farview says.

The only way to get around this is to have the full version (where the eq is included as a plugin).

 

[CrowsofFritz]

Great. Thanks for the info!

 

[bouldersoundguy]

It's just before the fader, after all the inserts. Just like a hardware mixer.

Some hardware mixers put the eq before the insert, which I prefer. Most DAWs I've used just treat the eq as a generic insert, allowing it to be anywhere in the order. If I had to use a DAW with the eq locked at the end of the inserts I would bypass it and insert an eq plugin where it belongs, before the compressor.

 

[Guitargodgt]

Some hardware mixers put the eq before the insert, which I prefer. Most DAWs I've used just treat the eq as a generic insert, allowing it to be anywhere in the order. If I had to use a DAW with the eq locked at the end of the inserts I would bypass it and insert an eq plugin where it belongs, before the compressor.

Yeah this is probably what 98% of cubase users do. I almost never grab the channel strip eq for anything. I have to many other neat eqs to bother with the boring stock 4 band.

 

[Mo Facta]

It's just before the fader, after all the inserts. Just like a hardware mixer.

Wait up.

Guys, inserts 7-8 are post-fader and therefore post-EQ. This is one of the niftier features of the cubase mixer in case you want to use the track EQ before an insert or use the fader to push a track into a compressor, etc.

Cheers

 

[jimdurbin]

If the compressor is post EQ, then any EQ changes will affect the compression. I prefer to EQ after compression for that reason.

 

[bouldersoundguy]

If the compressor is post EQ, then any EQ changes will affect the compression. I prefer to EQ after compression for that reason.

Yes, but then you face the problem that the compressor can be overreacting to frequencies you've cut and under-reacting to frequencies you've boosted. If you apply a high pass filter the compressor still reacts to the low frequencies making the mids and highs bounce around for no apparent reason. Lighter eq, especially in the HF, works pretty well either way.

 

[Mo Facta]

Exactly. Remember a wideband compressor does not discriminate. If you're feeding it a signal that has too much of a certain problematic frequency range, it will amplify the problem. I almost always do my surgical EQ before compression to avoid this and then later if I need any tone shaping I'll EQ again.

Cheers