When to bounce MIDI to Audio

[djdarwin]

Im running reason through rewire into protools.

So i sequence my track in reason. Got all my parts together and everything sounds nice. No mixing done yet, everything is dead center, no processing done yet, everything is dry.

I mix, master and record in protools.

I usually bounce each individual track from reason down as its own WAV file (bass, kick, snare, piano... ect).

Then i import these WAVs into protools for processing.

Knowing that most tracks need a little EQ, Reverb and compression should i bounce these reason tracks down to WAV completely dry?

Or...

Process them a little in reason (to get it sounding "right") and THEN bounce them into protools as audio?

I have been told to get the MIDI tracks "right" before you bounce them down as audio. This is obvious in terms of note selection and timing, but does it apply to dynamics and processing as well?

Any thoughts, opinions or feedback would be great.

 

[Matt123]

Im not trying to be an ass but I've read a couple of your posts now and I think what you need the most is to read some good books on mixing/mastering.
That will help you way more than aimlessly posting.....not saying ou cant' use the board for help just check out some books first. All the best - Matt

 

[AlChuck]

You must mean bounce them to audio before mixing, not mastering.

 

[ssscientist]

Im running reason through rewire into protools.

So i sequence my track in reason. Got all my parts together and everything sounds nice. No mixing done yet, everything is dead center, no processing done yet, everything is dry.

I mix, master and record in protools.

I usually bounce each individual track from reason down as its own WAV file (bass, kick, snare, piano... ect).

Then i import these WAVs into protools for processing.

Knowing that most tracks need a little EQ, Reverb and compression should i bounce these reason tracks down to WAV completely dry?

Or...

Process them a little in reason (to get it sounding "right") and THEN bounce them into protools as audio?

I have been told to get the MIDI tracks "right" before you bounce them down as audio. This is obvious in terms of note selection and timing, but does it apply to dynamics and processing as well?

Any thoughts, opinions or feedback would be great.

As Matt123 says I'm not trying to be an ass either, but you've got a long way to go before you start setting up a poll on something that barely deserved 'question' status.

Reason Adapted is not meant to be a professional production version of Reason. It's meant to wet your whistle for the real version which you then buy and install. You CAN use it, but it's extremely limited compared to Reason 3.0. If you do use it seriously it won't be long before you answer your own poll/question --- get the midi tracks sounding as good as you can before you render them to disk because if you're bothering with midi tracks at all they will certainly make up a measurable percentage of the sound of the song.

And therefore need to sound as good and polished as you can possibly make them.




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[iqi616]

I "print" MIDI tracks as soon as I've cleaned up the finger fumbles. That way I know I've got an audio track archived. I use hardware synths btw.

 

[rf1]

As Matt123 says I'm not trying to be an ass ...

Whatever, that's what this forum is about. Asking questions to get some help or guidance, even if they're quite noob.

In regards to the main question, i think that before anything you sould first check if your hardware (CPU power, RAM, etc) can support the high load reason gives, especially when you load your synths with effects. Because if you leave your song as MIDI, you'll be playing it always in real time, routing MIDI signals to reason, producing sounds, applying effects, returning audio, and THEN processing it with Protools, in your case, which could easily overpower your CPU if you don't have a very good computer.
If that's the case, you should maybe bounce your instruments to separate wavs (but not too many! because of high HDD space and speed consuming at playtime), and then mix them with Protools.
The thing is that when you need to change some sound, it sucks bouncing again and again.

Good luck!

 

[ssscientist]

Whatever, that's what this forum is about. Asking questions to get some help or guidance, even if they're quite noob.

This is the 'Midi Mania' forum, not the 'Newbies' forum.

Nobody answering questions in this forum is under any obligation to answer stupid questions politely. That's for the Newbies only.

I do my best, and if you had chosen to quote a little more of my answer --- from last Summer no less --- it would have been obvious that I wasn't trying to be an ass, an asshole or anything in between.

And, being just 3 posts into your time with us you need to learn the difference between a poll and a question and think carefully before you call anyone out on the basis of a single post. The only reason this is not buried somewhere on the 20th page of this forum is that iqi161 felt that we all needed to know that he uses hardware synths.


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[mikemorgan]

LOL!!!!

bump!

 

[TelePaul]

It may depend on your samples...would you feel it necessary to 'tweak' a full grand piano vsti you've just spent a grand on?

 

[travelin travis]

is this thread really as retarded as it seems? cause it seems pretty goofy to me. or maybe it's just me? all i can say is "bush did it". now where did my bomb go........

 

[TelePaul]

is this thread really as retarded as it seems? cause it seems pretty goofy to me. or maybe it's just me? all i can say is "bush did it". now where did my bomb go........

Thread reported.

 

[Chili]

2007??

This Poll is now closed. Thank you for participating. Your Vote Counts.... etc etc etc....

 

[suprstar]

Thanks for letting us know, that's very.. helpful or something, I guess, I've been wondering since 1/07!

 

[Gregois Le Punk]

me too I was sitting on the edge of my seat!