TASCAM MAN
New member
Why so negative, man?
Im still wondering what the "7 characters" means
Im still wondering what the "7 characters" means
TASCAM MAN
New member
Why so negative, man?
Yes, the answer is yes. It was yes when John first answered the question. Again yes, when he quoted himself answering the question, and still yes when two members confirm it as a yes.
Yes
Who? Jon Anderson of YES !?!?!!
JimmyS1969
MOODerator
Ok so record in 24 bits and the final mix to CD in the NEO burner will end up better quality than if I would have recored in 16 bits....YES???
Dood, yes. Much more headroom recording at 24 bit. 32 bit float, even better.
CD audio is 16 bit, and you will need to dither to get there, but always record at the highest bit rate available to you.
JimmyS1969
MOODerator
Im still wondering what the "7 characters" means
That is the minimum amount of characters you can type, in order to send a post. It means absolutely nothing.
TASCAM MAN
New member
Why so negative, man?
Who me negative wow
Well my only apology is that I just noticed that this wasnt even my thread.....and all of this attention love it LoL !!
JimmyS1969
MOODerator
Who? Jon Anderson of YES !?!?!!
Sigh....Yes.
JimmyS1969
MOODerator
Who me negative wow
You just get a 'Pthththpththpth' from me there. lol!
Steenamaroo
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Tho forum requires any response to be 7 characters or longer.
Quotations don''t count.
Listen, this is a bad analogy, but It's probably good enough right now.
I used to think of mixing in 24 bit like a digital image.
Think of photoshop. A final image is usually much smaller on screen, or in your hand, than it the source image.
You edit at a much higher resolution than the final pic needs to be.
So you could say that you always print your pictures 8x6 card, so what's the point in getting any higher than a 1mp camera and in some ways you'd be right,
but try to edit any of your pictures in any detail and you'll realise why a 10mp camera would have been a great investment.
Quotations don''t count.
Listen, this is a bad analogy, but It's probably good enough right now.
I used to think of mixing in 24 bit like a digital image.
Think of photoshop. A final image is usually much smaller on screen, or in your hand, than it the source image.
You edit at a much higher resolution than the final pic needs to be.
So you could say that you always print your pictures 8x6 card, so what's the point in getting any higher than a 1mp camera and in some ways you'd be right,
but try to edit any of your pictures in any detail and you'll realise why a 10mp camera would have been a great investment.
TASCAM MAN
New member
Why so negative, man?
Lol! I'm just really into Yes!
That is funny dude haha and that is one of my favorite bands to this day and have seen them at least twice in my lifetime back in there prime ...they put on an awesome performance!! Both times I saw them with Bill Bruford on drums and Squire,Wakeman,Howe and Anderson
TASCAM MAN
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Why so negative, man?
I beleive that but I also beleive that hardly any of the music I see of the day takes advantage of even 96db of dynamics....being such a lost art(dynamics) as it is these days
R
RAMI
Guest
Who me negative wow
Hehe....don't flatter yourself, I wasn't talking to you. You're having trouble following along here, aren't you?
I quoted Jimmy and then responded to him, how can you not know I wasn't talking to you?
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Massive Master
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24-bit avoids dither noise buildup. Most recordings won't notice a couple tracks of dither noise. 20, 30, different story. And it's just... Its...I beleive that but I also beleive that hardly any of the music I see of the day takes advantage of even 96db of dynamics....being such a lost art(dynamics) as it is these days
No doubt, great recordings can be and have been made in 16-bit. But 24-bit is one of those "no brainers" -- 16.7 million possible points of resolution (vs. a relatively measly 65k in 16-bit), a dynamic range that exceeds the gear and normal human hearing (as opposed to just exceeding the needs of a typical recording).
EVERYTHING in recording is about headroom -- whether that's 'everyday' headroom (making sure your voltage levels are in the norm or the gear you're using) or a more broad definition (such as having a medium that exceeds the potential capabilities of the source - in this case, by far exceeding).
The audio industry was more excited about a 24-bit norm than it was about digital audio in the first place...
AstraLeadGuitar
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Regarding making a master CD, Tascam seem to think that this can be burned onboard the Tascam 2488 Mark II. However, I presume this wouldn't be up to Red Book Standard? The last time I had a production master made, I wanted ISRCs embedded, so I got a professional mastering engineer to make a Red Book Master using the CD-R the Tascam had burned. However, this time round, I'm wondering whether I have to go to that trouble again.
Have any of you guys on the forum used the free software Cdrdao available from SourceForge which apparently allows for full control of sub-channel data such as ISRCs? I'd be interested to know whether it's easy to use and really up to the task of making a RB Master, i.e., no nasty surprises with it not playing on standard players! Looking forward to your views.
Have any of you guys on the forum used the free software Cdrdao available from SourceForge which apparently allows for full control of sub-channel data such as ISRCs? I'd be interested to know whether it's easy to use and really up to the task of making a RB Master, i.e., no nasty surprises with it not playing on standard players! Looking forward to your views.
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jsprinkle
New member
great question
Massive Master
www.massivemastering.com
Just side-noting --
Although the creation of a compliant production master on CD-R isn't exactly rocket surgery, it's a very precise process. If you aren't absolutely 100% certain of the software's abilities and YOUR abilities, it can be a very, very expensive and time-consuming lesson in the long run.
Just ask the band that sent in a "copy" of the disc I sent them instead of the master disc and wound up opening the shrinkwrap on 2,000 units and replacing each disc by hand when they found their "copy" wasn't properly formatted and the plant "just reproduced what they sent" --
Nearly any mastering facility would be more than happy to do a simple compilation of your tracks and export discs -- or a DDP image (the preferred method anyway) without taking you to the bank and you could potentially avoid a major headache down the road.
THAT SAID -- I noticed in (this post? Another post?) that you've done that in the past with less-than-stellar results. Don't use that guy. Or specify that your heads & tails are intact (assuming they are) and you need them adjusted. It strikes me as very odd that he/she didn't ask about that in the first place.
Looking at the feature list of that program, it appears to do everything that's needed. But having a really cool set of tools in my garage doesn't make me a mechanic... And my mechanic could do a much better job with *my* tools than I could ever dream of with *me* using his.
Although the creation of a compliant production master on CD-R isn't exactly rocket surgery, it's a very precise process. If you aren't absolutely 100% certain of the software's abilities and YOUR abilities, it can be a very, very expensive and time-consuming lesson in the long run.
Just ask the band that sent in a "copy" of the disc I sent them instead of the master disc and wound up opening the shrinkwrap on 2,000 units and replacing each disc by hand when they found their "copy" wasn't properly formatted and the plant "just reproduced what they sent" --
Nearly any mastering facility would be more than happy to do a simple compilation of your tracks and export discs -- or a DDP image (the preferred method anyway) without taking you to the bank and you could potentially avoid a major headache down the road.
THAT SAID -- I noticed in (this post? Another post?) that you've done that in the past with less-than-stellar results. Don't use that guy. Or specify that your heads & tails are intact (assuming they are) and you need them adjusted. It strikes me as very odd that he/she didn't ask about that in the first place.
Looking at the feature list of that program, it appears to do everything that's needed. But having a really cool set of tools in my garage doesn't make me a mechanic... And my mechanic could do a much better job with *my* tools than I could ever dream of with *me* using his.