What's up with Ebay lately?

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I just saw a Soundtracs Topaz Project 8 go by unsold. No one even made a bid on it. Last year I saw one go for close to $1500. I've noticed lots of other pro gear going cheaper than usual this year too. Isn't anyone buying that stuff anymore?

I was thinking of putting up my Mackie 8 bus and my Project 8 boards for sale but, not if nobody wants them.

What gives?
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Either that, or people are charging a ton for shipping or asking local pickup only. Which bites.
 
The first quarter after Christmas is alays a hard time to sell gear.

That and the wallets are stretched thin due to gas being over $2.50 a gallon :(
 
yeah im actually looking for a mixer now.. im on the prowl .. ive been looking at mackie 8 busses and soundtracs lol
 
Honestly I think there are fewer and fewer people who want mixers now. Most people in the mid range market are mixing in the box now and spending the money they would have spent on a bix mixer on nice mic pres etc... I really think it's supply and demand. There are tons of those 8 buss consoles out there, and there aren't enough people that want them. Big consoles are pretty much dead, unfortunately. I think the Mackie 8 buss type consoles are only going to get cheaper.
 
I would love to have an 8-buss console. If only I had ANY money at all....
 
Yeah, the only thing

that you need a big mixer for, IMO, is live recording, or live sound.

I'm not saying it might not come in handy, but why would you really need one? As computers get more and more powerful, software more and more sophisticated, and control surfaces get better, the days of the analog recording console are numbered, I'm afraid.
 
Don't be afraid, transistors scared the crap out of RCA and they did okay
 
gas for $2.50!?! where!?!!!

it just settled down again, nice and low at $2.79 :)

and yes, 1st quarter is always badddd news. if you notice, guitar center doesnt buy any gear after xmas, up until like april or may.
 
alien said:
The first quarter after Christmas is alays a hard time to sell gear.

That and the wallets are stretched thin due to gas being over $2.50 a gallon :(
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I hung on to them until now because I thought tax return time would be the best time to sell them. Maybe I was wrong?
 
You could always give them to me. I'll give you payments -- $10 a month for the rest of my life. No kidding. If I live another 60 years that's... only $7200. Crap.
 
zacanger said:
You could always give them to me. I'll give you payments -- $10 a month for the rest of my life. No kidding. If I live another 60 years that's... only $7200. Crap.
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How about one penny a day for 20 days, but double it each day!

Day one I get .01
Day two I get .02
Day three I get .04
and so on...
 
you dont wanna double it everyday.. you want to square it everyday.

after 20 days of doubling, you would still have like 50 bucks hehe

20 days of ^2 pwr, gives you like 100k or somethin like that.
 
TragikRemix said:
you dont wanna double it everyday.. you want to square it everyday.

after 20 days of doubling, you would still have like 50 bucks hehe

20 days of ^2 pwr, gives you like 100k or somethin like that.
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$0.01 squared is $0.0001. You want to double it. The second day, you pay 2 cents, plus the original penny, so a total of 3 cents. That's (2^2) - 1. The third day, you pay 4 cents, but you've already paid 3, for a total of 7 cents, or (2^3) - 1

After 20 days, the total comes to 2^20 cents minus one. That's $10,485.75.
 
ya somethin like that :)

i forget the equation, but it is called an exponential and i should remember how to do it, but i dont :(
 
notCardio said:
that you need a big mixer for, IMO, is live recording, or live sound.

I'm not saying it might not come in handy, but why would you really need one? As computers get more and more powerful, software more and more sophisticated, and control surfaces get better, the days of the analog recording console are numbered, I'm afraid.
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There are other reasons for larger mixers. In general, the bigger mixers are of much higher quality. There are certainly exceptions, but I am speaking generally. Larger consoles often have more aux sends, 24 or more busses, actual parametric EQ'ing rather than just sweepable mids, more comprehensive master sections and metering, nicer faders, better summing, modular builds, better crosstalk and noise specs, balanced inserts, built in patchbays with multipin wiring schemes, switches for EQ's and insert points, and often have incredible sounding EQ's and preamps. I know with my console I ended paying about $250 a channel for channels with Penny and Giles faders, 4 band fully parametric EQ's, excellent preamps, 24 busses, 12 auxes, automation (which is a little outdated so I don't use that aspect), optional dynamics package, recallable routing, a master section with 8 two track return points, 4 control room outs with mono, dimming and talkback facilities etc... The real kicker for me though was how it sounds. It easily holds its own against outboard channels in the $1000 to $2000 range. It also doubles as a heater in the winter;)
 
xstatic said:
There are other reasons for larger mixers. In general, the bigger mixers are of much higher quality. There are certainly exceptions, but I am speaking generally. Larger consoles often have more aux sends, 24 or more busses, actual parametric EQ'ing rather than just sweepable mids, more comprehensive master sections and metering, nicer faders, better summing, modular builds, better crosstalk and noise specs, balanced inserts, built in patchbays with multipin wiring schemes, switches for EQ's and insert points, and often have incredible sounding EQ's and preamps. I know with my console I ended paying about $250 a channel for channels with Penny and Giles faders, 4 band fully parametric EQ's, excellent preamps, 24 busses, 12 auxes, automation (which is a little outdated so I don't use that aspect), optional dynamics package, recallable routing, a master section with 8 two track return points, 4 control room outs with mono, dimming and talkback facilities etc... The real kicker for me though was how it sounds. It easily holds its own against outboard channels in the $1000 to $2000 range. It also doubles as a heater in the winter;)
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I don't doubt the features or quality, and if you were a larger professional studio, I could see the necessity if for no other reason than flexibility, but how many full-time pro studios are there out there now, vs. how many old analog boards are floating around? I have a friend that had a 24 ch Soundcraft, because he just did his own music, and in the analog days (he was late to the digital party) that's what was necessary. Once he was convinced to go computer, he didn't need it anymore. I'm sure there are hundreds, if not thousands, of similar stories out there.
 
I was merely trying to point out that there are still many uses for analog consoles like that. Its really a buyers market with them right now. In many ways you could even say that there are more reasons for them now that they are so low in cost. It is also important to consider that many of the big nice ones that are for sale were replaced with bigger newer nicer ones. Just because they are out there does not mean that they aren't needed and/or deisred. Believe it or not, more people own large format consoles now than say 10 years ago. The biggest change has not been the need or desire for them, but the fact there are tons of small setups popping up that do not need them. That should not be confused with studios that do want or need them disappearing. There have been some big studio closures, but there have also been a lot of new studio openings. If you talk to the manufacturers of these consoles you will find that the disappearing analog console thing is a bit more of a myth than a reality. Things are definately changing, just not like many people might think.
 
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