What's so bad about Audition?

[BRIEFCASEMANX]

It seems like Audition is sort of frowned upon by a lot of people that own other DAWs. Is there a reason I should go out and buy Cubase SX3 or whatever other people like? What exactly are the drawbacks of Audition other than midi, and vst synth support? I like Audition but I'm not really sure what I'm missing out on.

 

[timboZ]

One of the biggest drawbacks with Audition is that it dose not support ASIO sound drivers and VSTi support.
Other than that I love it and use it all the time.

 

[Spaztic]

The only thing I don't like is that as above you cannot use VSTi and ASIO....Other then that it is the best!!!!

 

[Spaztic]

better midi support would be nice also....

Sorry accidently doubleposted....

 

[BRIEFCASEMANX]

what is the advantage of using asio?

 

[dobro]

As I understand it, virutally zero latency.

 

[ozpeter]

Audition is best for the things that it's best for.

If Audition does the things you want to do and it fits your workflow, then nobody else with different requirements and workflow can say that you're doing anything wrong with using it.

Same as saying that a two-seater Ferrari is the best car in the world. Not if you want to fetch your four kids from school on the way back from doing a big supermarket shop, it isn't.

It's all horses for courses.

 

[noisedude]

Urgh ... Audition made me want to throw my PC out of the window. Nightmarish multi-tracking, boring grey interfaces on plugins, impossible reverbs, rubbish metering, backward use of the mouse, screwed-up bussing ... if you want something like this, get Sony Vegas. As a multi-tracker with no great MIDI side, it kills Audition.

Audition has two redeeming features -
1) Wave editor is reasonably handy, and changing sample rates of files a doddle (press F11)
2) The noise reduction plug is excellent - a studio I was recording in had a TV link between the live room and control room. You know that high-pitched whine cheap tellies make? Well I multitracked that about 20 times over, because we didn't notice it for some reason. But taking a profile of the whine, I was able to remove it without any discernible detrimental effect on the tracks. Excellent.

If you can afford it for those two things, it's great. Otherwise ... there are many better options!!

 

[timboZ]

...boring grey interfaces on plugins, impossible reverbs.....

That is only with the Auditions plugins.
You do not get that with VST and DX plugins. Also Auditions Studio Reverb is very good. Like all FX's it can take some time to get the sound you are after.

 

[noisedude]

Yeah I know - but we're talking about Audition as a proposition, as a package. You can get better sound from a Midiverb than you can from the Full Reverb plug, and in a fraction of the time. Anyhow - just my opinion, answering the question!!

 

[dobro]

One thing that I wish would work better is the bus system. If you put a bus on a track, you can't look at what's happening with that bus while the track's playing. By contrast, if you just use the FX setting instead, you *can* look at what your plugs are doing while the track's playing and make tweaks on the fly.

But you know, I can run twenty or more instances of my EQ plug in Cool's FX feature, and the computer never craps out. I used to think that was good. Nowadays, I'm thinking the reason I can get away with that is because my EQ plug is running such simple math. I mean, what *can* you expect for $50? I know exactly what my next piece of gear is going to be. Exactly.

 

[noisedude]

So in conclusion:

Q: What's so bad about Audition?
A: Its rubbishness.

 

[dobro]

Oh, come on. You're just being provocative.

 

[lpdeluxe]

If you don't like it, the best strategy is to ignore it, rather than attacking it. There are a number of us who prize its stability and user friendliness. If you had a bad experience with it, it was probably because you were trying to make it act like some other software.

 

[noisedude]

I'm not attacking it! I'm telling you my experience of it!! The guy asked what was so bad about it and I told him - plenty of you disagree and that's fine!

Geez - are you all so insecure that someone can't disagree with you?

Oh and Dobro - yes. What's your point?

 

[chrisharris]

If you record real instruments and vocals with real mics, it rules. I've used Sonar/Cubase/Cakewalk/ProTools (free), and they're all great for different things. For me, rarely recording more than 2 tracks at a time, never using sequencing beyond loops, not knowing wtf midi even is, and not giving a rat's ass about the use of gray for a plugin color (were you even serious about that?), it's great. Stable as a rock and very intuitive.

If you're one of those guys who gets excited about things like plug-in colors in audio software, then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe take your skirt off and start mixing??? lol.

AA 1.5 does have VST support, by the way.

 

[ace516]

yup .. but not VSTi.. .. like.. halion.. but other than that, it's an awesome software. I've tried others but they're just not what I want. they make everything so complicated when it's really not complicated.

 

[noisedude]

If you record real instruments and vocals with real mics, it rules. I've used Sonar/Cubase/Cakewalk/ProTools (free), and they're all great for different things. For me, rarely recording more than 2 tracks at a time, never using sequencing beyond loops, not knowing wtf midi even is, and not giving a rat's ass about the use of gray for a plugin color (were you even serious about that?), it's great. Stable as a rock and very intuitive.

If you're one of those guys who gets excited about things like plug-in colors in audio software, then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe take your skirt off and start mixing??? lol.

AA 1.5 does have VST support, by the way.

Hmmmm. Well my problems with it came about for standard multitrack recording. It was with an Nuendo interface, good Soundcraft desk, Alesis HD24 and a tonne of great outboard. The sounds I was getting were great, but I couldn't get it to do what I wanted. I felt like I was using a calculator, not a creative tool.

On the other hand, Cubase is unbelievably clunky for audio, but great for midi. Tracktion is super-quick for getting you going but halfway through a project it will crap out on you because there's some bug you just found in it.

For straight-up audio multitracking you simply cannot beat Vegas. If you can't work out MIDI and don't understand the possibilities of soft-synths, then go get the trial version of that and give it a go. I absolutely love it. Everything works as it should, no crap, no 'why does the mouse not do what I want it to', just perfect. And you can use it for making your BOD live videos too!

 

[dmc777]

I just started home recording and have tried Audition and Fruity Loops. I only use fruity loops now b/c I can do everything in it and it's pretty easy to use. Audition was pretty easy to use as well though. If your a starter like me and will be doing everything on your own it might would help to look into a sequencer.

 

[dogwomble]

I'm not quote sure what you guys mean by 'lack of vst support', however I've got Audition 1.5 here, and it's picked up VST effects from Wavelab and other effects from Acid not a problrm. But maybe there's another definition I'm missing out on?