scrubs
Not of sound mind
What kind of guitar? What do you want it to sound like?
In general, if you're recording direct, you'll get the best results with some sort of amp modeler that functions as a DI. The POD, SansAmp, and vAmp are some to try out. There are different versions for electric, acoustic, and bass guitar. These modelers will rarely sound as good as miking a nice amp (or miking an acoustic guitar), but they will get you by.
In general, if you're recording direct, you'll get the best results with some sort of amp modeler that functions as a DI. The POD, SansAmp, and vAmp are some to try out. There are different versions for electric, acoustic, and bass guitar. These modelers will rarely sound as good as miking a nice amp (or miking an acoustic guitar), but they will get you by.
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djuro
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whats the best for elecric guitar'?
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Zed10R
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scrubs said:
I take exception to that. Recording guitar direct is simply different, not inferior, to recording a mic'd amp. It's all in what you do with the sound you have.
The best, IMO, is whatever version of POD you can afford.
apl
Stand Up Comity
I've gotten good results with a Digitech RP50, but I had to do a lot of experimenting to find good tones. I also use a Line 6 Spider II 15 amp which has a direct out and it's got some very good tones. You can also record your guitar direct and dry into the PC, then use the freeVST amp plugins from www.simulanalog.org; I've heard some very good tones from that.
mshilarious
Banned
I run mine into a tewb preamp for plenty of harmonic distortion, then I use the UAD Nigel plug. It's delicious!
Ronan
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As a guy that mixes records for a living I can tell you with absolute certaintly that recording guitars direct is inferior. Unless the guitar amp was something like a Peavy Bandit, the real thing always wins. Direct guitar recording really does ruin records. Of course that opinion is subjective but direct recording of guitars always makes mixing much more difficult and the results are never great. It has gotten to the point where I very often will turn down mix jobs where I know the guitars were recorded direct because I know the mix will not be much fun and the record will not come out that great.
IF you must record direct use a SansAmp PSA-1 and not one of the awful modelers like a Pod. The huge problem with Amp modlers is not that they make for crappy guitars sounds, but they really hurt the sounds of all the other elements in the mix. A pod will make the drums and the lead vocal sound worse.
In my opinion amp modelers are the worse thing to happen to recorded music in my life time. Your results may vary.
IF you must record direct use a SansAmp PSA-1 and not one of the awful modelers like a Pod. The huge problem with Amp modlers is not that they make for crappy guitars sounds, but they really hurt the sounds of all the other elements in the mix. A pod will make the drums and the lead vocal sound worse.
In my opinion amp modelers are the worse thing to happen to recorded music in my life time. Your results may vary.
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Jack Real
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Hi
This is how I record my guitars. I plug my electric guitar into an Art pre-amplifier and this goes to my Yamaha MD8 recorder. I record the dry signal of the guitar. I also connect the direct out of the recorded track to a Yamaha DJ Stomp Amp modeler. The DJ Stomp has 81 presets and I often change the preset at the mixing phase when I have a better idea of the song. Also, I can play with the distorsion and other parameters during the mixing phase. If you know your guitar sounds, then record with a real amp but if you are like me and you are not too sure about your guitar sounds, an amp modeler can be useful.
/Jack Real.
This is how I record my guitars. I plug my electric guitar into an Art pre-amplifier and this goes to my Yamaha MD8 recorder. I record the dry signal of the guitar. I also connect the direct out of the recorded track to a Yamaha DJ Stomp Amp modeler. The DJ Stomp has 81 presets and I often change the preset at the mixing phase when I have a better idea of the song. Also, I can play with the distorsion and other parameters during the mixing phase. If you know your guitar sounds, then record with a real amp but if you are like me and you are not too sure about your guitar sounds, an amp modeler can be useful.
/Jack Real.
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chessrock
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Ronan said:
I can't exactly say I disagree with that statement.
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djuro
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how do they record guitar in profesional studio?
scrubs
Not of sound mind
djuro said:
The vast majority of the time (especially for distorted guitar), they use nice guitars, with new strings and a good set-up, running into nice amplifiers, miked with good microphones running into good preamps.
apl
Stand Up Comity
...in an acoustically nice room.scrubs said:
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guinesspig
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Direct bass recording...but muffled
Guitarists that I know (and not many) seem to prefer miked recording...and rightfully so. However...
this leaves me (a bassist)a bit jealous, since miking a bass is like passing wind through a pillow.
Even when I run my bass through one effects pedal and then direct, i'm getting exploding bottom end from time to time that takes over the playback. At the same time, my top end is high (I play Flea style) so as to be heard apart from the guitar.
This is all lack of experience, i'm sure, but what can I do...i've tried so many things, that half of a quarter of what I have learned is all that is left - and that has me spinning.
Cheers in advance.
Guitarists that I know (and not many) seem to prefer miked recording...and rightfully so. However...this leaves me (a bassist)a bit jealous, since miking a bass is like passing wind through a pillow.
Even when I run my bass through one effects pedal and then direct, i'm getting exploding bottom end from time to time that takes over the playback. At the same time, my top end is high (I play Flea style) so as to be heard apart from the guitar.
This is all lack of experience, i'm sure, but what can I do...i've tried so many things, that half of a quarter of what I have learned is all that is left - and that has me spinning.
Cheers in advance.
Todzilla
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There is a time and place for direct guitars, without an amp modeller. If you want the ultraclean, slick 70's guitar sound (think Chic) that is totally in your face, then an amp won't cut it.
But for most guitar sounds, yeah a well recorded amp is great.
I will say that an amp modeller sounds better if your amp is lame, or if you don't record it well. That said, once you figure out how to mic a good amp (no small feat and one I'm still working on), it makes the modellers sound pretty ugly.
My neighbor has a Vox ToneLab. That is the best modeller I've heard.
-Todzilla
But for most guitar sounds, yeah a well recorded amp is great.
I will say that an amp modeller sounds better if your amp is lame, or if you don't record it well. That said, once you figure out how to mic a good amp (no small feat and one I'm still working on), it makes the modellers sound pretty ugly.
My neighbor has a Vox ToneLab. That is the best modeller I've heard.
-Todzilla
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Mcgill
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If I can add to this, consider the Line 6 - Guitar port. For a low cost option, the Hardware unit is Basically an outboard USB sound card, with an unbalanced 1/4" input. Great sounding as well!
cellardweller
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I also suffer from lame-amp-itisTodzilla said:
I wanted to get the PSA-1, but couldn't swing the cash... for now I'm getting by with a SansGT2. I just couldn't get my ampeg to record well, but this is also probably due to my own tracking/mixing inefficiencies, cheap equipment/bad recording space aside...
It gives me the ability to quickly record scratch tracks, at the very least, which serves my current purposes...
apl
Stand Up Comity
I think you've got good tone, CD.cellardweller said:I also suffer from lame-amp-itis
I wanted to get the PSA-1, but couldn't swing the cash... for now I'm getting by with a SansGT2. I just couldn't get my ampeg to record well, but this is also probably due to my own tracking/mixing inefficiencies, cheap equipment/bad recording space aside...
It gives me the ability to quickly record scratch tracks, at the very least, which serves my current purposes...
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RAMI
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Nothing compares to moving air.
aaroncomp
1-20-2009
RAMI said:
...and nothing's more inconvenient to the average home recording joe (see www.homerecording.com/bbs the original quesiton of this thread)
P.S. my reply isn't targeted to you, Rami
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